At this rate owning the libs will become the greatest cause of death amongst conservatives. They finally got the message and are trying to do us a favour.
I believe Nazis should be black-bagged instead of punched; punching them will humiliate the individual, but may also unite the group or serve as propagnda for accelerating their agenda.
There’s some 48 Laws of Power (it’s okay, you can cringe.) such-and-such about only attacking an enemy if you can utterly crush them, being careful to avoid leaving them wounded or humiliated , and retaining your initiative by maintaining the secrecy of your position. Bagging does all of this, and improves your odds of retaining your right to bear arms in the eyes of the law.
Welllll Marx did say you had to have a charismatic fascist leader to lead the revolution. Then once the means are seized he gives power back to the people. The caveats between point A and B and probably all of point A is what a liberal would take issue with
it’s the same bullshit under a different flag. the shit that happened in the eastern bloc was just as oppressive and authoritarian, the simple fact that it’s politically considered “left” and not “right” doesn’t make it any better.
and the worst part about this world view is that it tends to divide the world into two groups of authies that are the same group that larp against each other, and a bunch of indecisive schmucks in the middle who are weak for not “fully embracing” their “side” and joining one of the two groups. while what’s really happening is that those schmucks are just capable of empathy unlike the tankies or nazis who insist they don’t totally do the same shit as each other.
No the Nazis did not do central economic planning and the USSR did not believe the strong should rule the weak nor did they believe in creating a “master race” by exterminating the perceived other and before you say much GuLaGs a Gulag is a prison in which you serve time by working, similar to private prisons in the US however it wasn’t done on the basis of exchange value but labour time.
i’m hungarian. you don’t have to explain to me how the soviets operated, it deeply permeates our culture.
central economic planning and master races are not what this is about. we’re talking about oppression, and lots of politically left ideologies did that a lot. the book 1984 was so scary not because it’s an exploration of an oppressive society, but because the particular flavor of that oppression matches the soviet ideology so well that up until the collapse of the USSR it was a very real possibility that its world would come true.
add to that that most modern-day tankies care a lot less about central planning, all they really want to do is dunk on the west, and end up propping up russia and china in the process, with all their hateful baggage.
Oppresion is on a different dimension; authoritarian (the extreme version is what you said) to libertarian (the extreme version is anarchism). It has no relation to the left or right wing. You can oppress people to be capitalists or socialists.
I see this answer given a lot on reddit when this paradox is brought up so I’ll post it here too. There is no paradox of tolerance because tolerance is not a rule but a social contract. When someone is intolerant they have violated said social contract and thus are no longer covered by it and are not granted tolerance. We tolerate those who tolerate others.
It probably would not because they don’t believe in the argument anyway most of the time. They don’t argue in good faith. They use that argument because it’s something we would disagree with, but it’s something they want to do.
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