Ensign_Crab

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Ensign_Crab,

Liberals don’t get to steal credit for progressive union victories. Liberals abandoned unions for decades.

Ensign_Crab,

We’re totally doing the opposite of what we do in public, only where you can’t see it.

Ensign_Crab,

It’s why democrats are so insistent on pretending that Biden is the second coming of FDR.

Ensign_Crab,

FDR was the last president who was really afraid of Marxism at home

So in order to get actual progressive change, we need the looming threat of Marxism?

Ensign_Crab, (edited )

Stop hiding behind this single reasoning while failing to explain why Trump would be better.

He isn’t better.

Or if you’re clever: Wouldn’t be worse.

He would be worse.

That doesn’t mean Biden’s position is acceptable.

Ensign_Crab,

I don’t care what a deliberate spoiler candidate claims his positions are.

Ensign_Crab,

The whole “your feeble minds just can’t comprehend the complexity of why we have to keep supporting a genocide” argument made something clear.

Ensign_Crab,

I want Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Ensign_Crab,

Why do so many people immediately assume that criticizing Biden means support for another candidate?

Ensign_Crab,

I support Biden changing his policy regarding genocide. You’re so married to the idea of genocide that you think this is support for your second favorite pro-genocide candidate.

Ensign_Crab,

Gaslight someone else.

Ensign_Crab,

The question was what can we as individuals do?

Gloat harder that the only thing we can do is vote for one of two pro-genocide candidates.

Anyways, US aid generally accounts for around ,15% of Israel’s defense budget, and there are plenty of other countries from which to buy bombs.

So let Netanyahu buy from them. And where possible, sanction those who sell to Netanyahu. Why are we being complicit? And “it’s complicated, so shut up” isn’t an answer.

Ensign_Crab,

Thing is, those of us with good intentions do agree that Biden has made the wrong choice so far, even if this last shipment is being forced by the Republican-controlled House, so I hope you all realize this one isn’t on him at least.

Source on this last shipment being forced on him.

Ensign_Crab,

So it passed the house, it hasn’t passed the senate, and Biden can just veto it.

I get that you genocide lovers just want him to shovel as many weapons as possible at Israel until they’ve killed all the Palestinians, but let’s not pretend for an instant that this ties Biden’s hands in any way at all.

Ensign_Crab,

“We shouldn’t be supporting genocide at all, fucking ever” shouldn’t be, either, but this is lemmy.

Ensign_Crab, (edited )

Ah now see, this is what I’m talking about. Rather than look at the story, maybe double check, recognize that there are levels and nuances that while don’t excuse anything, they at least provide some reason

I did. You’re lying and pretending that Biden’s hands are tied, and I explained how they very much are not.

“Genocide lovers”? Really.

Just shut up. Fuck

You and people just like you, Genocide lovers all. I no longer care. Every single one and I’m calling you out.

If you want to ignore my words and call me a Trump supporter, which you have straight up done in this thread, I don’t see why anything you say should carry any weight at all either.

Your support for genocide is ALL you are.

Ensign_Crab, (edited )

Not voting for Biden is helping Trump and the GOP.

There is no making assumptions here.

Yes, there fucking is. I’m voting for Biden. You assumed I support Trump because and only because I don’t love genocide like you and every other centrist always has and always will.

I’ve already agreed with you that the Genocide is terrible.

And I agreed with you that Trump is worse than Biden. You responded by calling me a trumpist.

The Genocide needs to end. Biden must do more to end any support or the situation completely. Trump and the GOP must not gain the Office of the President of the United States.

This is my position, which I openly stated, and you replied by calling me a fucking trumpist. If you don’t like it when people ignore your words and make up abhorrent positions to ascribe to you, good. Tell your genocide supporting buddies what that’s like.

Ensign_Crab,

I wouldn’t be doing it if you hadn’t responded to me agreeing with you by calling me a trumpist.

I was responding in kind. I was doing exactly what you did, directly quoting you in one case.

You don’t like it very much, do you?

Ensign_Crab,

calling a democratically elected leader a fascist?

Trump is a fascist, and was elected.

Ensign_Crab,

If Trump isn’t a fascist, why do Democrats keep saying that we must vote to give the Biden/Netanyahu genocide a mandate in order to stop Trump on the grounds that he’s a fascist?

Ensign_Crab,

Well, if Trump isn’t a fascist, Democrats’ entire rationale for voting for Biden is predicated on a lie.

Ensign_Crab,

Do you not think Biden is better than Trump?

I believe Biden is the less shitty of the two. I also believe Trump is a fascist.

Ensign_Crab,

So you’re going to blame progressives if RFK peels off enough votes and trump wins, regardless of if those votes come from progressives or centrists.

Ensign_Crab,

Uh huh. I’m sure you won’t preemptively decide they’re all progressives without evidence.

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