XeroLinux,
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I must be honest is slowly growing on me. But it will take me at least a year to fully grasp it n feel comfortable with it the way I do with . As a result will not be my daily until then..

DKMellow,

@XeroLinux I started daily driving NixOS since the announcement that Xero is changing and it really is quite amazing but hard to adjust to xd

XeroLinux,
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@DKMellow Well yeah.. But I like to feel super comfortable with it before switching. I do not like to make something I do not grasp as a daily on my production machine !

DKMellow,

@XeroLinux Ye I fell that, at first I started with Hyprland as DE but that was a bit too big of a change so I am sticking with KDE for now until I learn nixos better. But yeah I can understand not wanting to jump right into the unknown.

XeroLinux,
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@DKMellow Exactly. I have it on my laptop and proxmox to mess with until I run on my production machine.. I need to learn more about Flakes n Home manager stuff.. Super confusing especially that am no coder.

AngryAnt,
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@XeroLinux @DKMellow Worth noting that both flakes and home manager are highly optional and have a great correlation with driving people away from NixOS entirely.

XeroLinux,
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@AngryAnt @DKMellow Yeah but am willing to learn could be useful in the end.

AngryAnt,
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@XeroLinux @DKMellow Absolutely. It could be.

They're optional add-ons which add complexity in exchange for specific features which are useful to some.

Usually I recommend people get going with base NixOS and, once comfortable with that, make an assessment if the featureset is relevant for them.

XeroLinux,
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@AngryAnt @DKMellow I will be doing just that that's why I said a year. Need time have been an Arch user for 5 years my brain is wired the Arch way...

AngryAnt,
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@XeroLinux @DKMellow Makes a lot of sense. My impression is NixOS can take a bit longer to adjust to when you switch from a different Linux rather than a completely different stack.

nebucatnetzer,
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@AngryAnt @XeroLinux @DKMellow I wouldn't throw home-manager and flakes in the same basket. Anyone who is currently a user of a tool like Stow will probably be interested in home-manager.

XeroLinux,
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@nebucatnetzer @AngryAnt @DKMellow Was talking about users like me who never used anything but Arch or Distro they using. Those familiar with such things as stow whatever that is yeah it's only natural

AngryAnt,
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@XeroLinux @nebucatnetzer @DKMellow Absolutely. The only reason I bring it up is that we have a very enthusiastic community which tends to present the two as mandatory when they're highly optional - with the obvious exception of when you're fully aware that you need the features they bring.

That is fine on its own, but becomes frustrating when you notice the correlation between that and new arrivals leaving in frustration.

DKMellow,

@AngryAnt For sure but they make your file easier when it comes to managing configs so they are worth learning

AngryAnt,
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@DKMellow Modules and imports are available without flakes if that's what you mean? Usually my configuration.nix for a service system is ~20 lines.

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