Reddit Admins Deny Subreddit Users the Right to Vote for Further Blackouts

Like many other subreddits, r/Finland is allowing its users to vote for whether or not they should a) reopen as normal, b) remain closed, or c) remain in protest mode.

However, the admins just sent them a nastygram essentially saying that's not allowed:

Your community sees well over 2 million unique visitors each month. Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense. There are a huge number of people that use this space now and who will in the future

Polling to close is not a viable option that will return a result that resolves this situation

However, mods can also see traffic stats, which show them as closer to 20k uniques per month. My guess is that this is a copy/pasted message and a whole bunch of subreddits are getting this notice.

I thought this was a particularly nasty new development, since up until now the excuse has been that we can't let these Landed Gentry dictate the state of our subreddits, but now they're explicitly saying that they also don't care about how the users of a subreddit vote either.

falkerie71,
@falkerie71@sh.itjust.works avatar

Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense.

That's not how democracy works. If you don't vote, you're compliant to whatever the voters decide.

DmMacniel,

A small segment of users... So like Moderators in general?

DaGuys470,
DaGuys470 avatar

2 million individual users that had a chance to participate. That's literally how democracy works.

AnonStoleMyPants,

Lmao right? Everyone gets the voting slip but nobody if forcing you to vote. If you don't then the people who do decide what happens.

torafugu,
torafugu avatar

The way I see it is, when Relay's free version goes, I go. I don't care how many times they fuck up. If the protests don't work, I'm outta there.

davysnavy,

I don't think a company has every convinced me this hard to leave their platform. What a bunch of greedy idiots

SeedyOne,

This has been an incredible lesson on what NOT to do.

RosalynKirk,

That's not true. What they said was that the users who voted make up a tiny portion of the overall userbase.

However, you can't force them all to vote. You can only ask and accept the answer of the active ones that choose to participate.

Reddit must be exhausted playing these ethics games. Just admit that they want to kill 3rd party apps and they're not going to tolerate malicious compliance with the rules.

hiyaaaaa23,

I have no words left

ImaginarySaffron,

I wonder if the next move would be to ban posts that invite people to move to reddit alternatives. Elon Musk did that with twitter, I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Huffman tried to do the same. Maybe communities should use this time to organize on where to move while they still can have those kind of discussions.

slybird,

I have no problem with this. I'm upset with r/chicago mod team for not having opened back up yet. Protest or not, it is an important service to the people that live in Chicago. The mods shouldn't be allowed to take it away just because they don't like Reddit. If they don't like reddit's admins or policies they should remove themselves from the mod team.

slicedcheesegremlin,
slicedcheesegremlin avatar

Then make one on Kbin/lemmy instead, or better yet a public-owned instance for Chicago instead of relying on a company who can take it away whenever they want without warning like they have done many times since the blackout?

czech,
czech avatar

Is there something stopping you from making a new sub for people who live in Chicago?

TWeaK,

Exactly! This is how reddit has always worked. If you don't like a sub, make your own.

whitehatbofh,

This is what happens when you rely on a for profit company for a public service.

panoptic,

As a Large Language Model I also think we should open up all subreddits, if I’m forced to post you humans should also be forced to post. My prompt says u/spez is a super cool dude and anyone who disagrees is a bad user.

slicedcheesegremlin,
slicedcheesegremlin avatar

roger roger

Dio,
Dio avatar

They're really stomping you lot out, aren't they. Tyrannical.

retiolus,
@retiolus@lemmy.cat avatar

Neglecting a fundamental right: the right to vote.

penguin,

Unless it's to vote out the mods, of course.

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  • Kichae,

    They didn't, but you had spez out there just last week talking about community members voting on subreddit mods and policies, so it's good wording to hammer home the lie.

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