tschfflr,
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I kinda gave up on the idea of teaching students command line stuff in the intro to corpus linguistics 😢 , but now I think I can't actually expect any tools other than browser based ones, because many students only have tablets? 😭 dang

CerstinMahlow,
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@tschfflr Could we then just stop calling them “digital natives”?

grvsmth,
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@tschfflr This was one thing that helped me a lot teaching at Saint John's: every full time student was given a laptop on matriculation, paid for by tuition, and financial aid if they qualified. The laptops were maintained by the university IT department until graduation.

That allowed me to assume they all had a certain minimum level of computing power available. I could just say "Bring your laptops on Thursday, we'll be doing corpus analysis!"

grvsmth,
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@tschfflr There are apps for both Android and IOS that provide SSH and SFTP support. Ten years ago they were clunky; I haven't tried them since then.

PythonAnywhere is awesome; I've actually edited scripts on my phone on the subway using it, and you can create Jupyter notebooks with it!

https://www.pythonanywhere.com/

tschfflr,
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@grvsmth that’s cool but I can’t do python with them at that level. I’m so old not everyone had a laptop when I started either, we used the dept’s computer pool. 👵🏻 but nowadays I think they wouldn’t plus they can’t install a tool there anyway

grvsmth,
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@tschfflr Yeah, I only taught the first two intro linguistics semesters, plus intro phonology, so I never got them to the point where coding was useful. It was mostly comparison and scavenger hunts.

I'm curious: how far have you been able to get with your students in intro corpus linguistics?

tschfflr,
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@grvsmth 5 years ago I used to do regular expressions, grep, plus inter annotator agreement, collocations with chi square. It really relied on students to do ALL the assignments though and was a huge amount of work. This year I used online corpus search tools instead (zero command line) but I at least showed them AntConc.
I want to go back to using regular assignments instead of a final in-person exam, but I worry about how to make sure they actually do the work themselves.

elmerot,
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@tschfflr
Have you tried Kontext at www.korpus.cz, with one of the InterCorp corpora (or EEBO or Hansard if English is the language)? There is an "advanced search" where they can use CorpusQueryLanguage, which may be useful.
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