lurch,

I think we (the EU) could match them easily, if people were less worried a job in the defense industry could also supply questionable buyers, e.g. many middle east countries that have a tendency to go haywire.

Ooops,
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Oh, no. The country with low quality control and technical inferior artillery in need of masses of ammunition to even hit something, is producing more shells.

Let's panic! Or just ignore this bullshit as it's non-news. I think I'll pick the second option.

mihies,

Meanwhile on the front, Ukrainian soldiers are outgunned and pushed back each day. 🤷‍♂️

Ooops,
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And the moment you give us your time machine that will be relevant in a discussion about 2024's production capacities.

Rumbelows,

This is exactly how they won the eastern front against Germany in ww2, and the Germans knew their business.

Massed artillery. Very hard to resist.

rasmus,

But the west can easily produce alot more artillery, if it was needed.

Ooops,
Ooops avatar

This is exactly how they won the eastern front against Germany in ww2

Actually no. Without massive help from allies neither would they have been able to sustain their losses in material nor would they have kept there logistical chain running without half a million lend-lease trucks and jeeps.

Without both they would have moved mostly by foot. Spamming artillery, move a few hundred meters at best, rinse and repeat. And they would have moved at simliar speeds as in Ukraine now... never actually coming close to Germany before the war ended or starving on the way.

They can produce and use 5 times as many shells. It's still not sustainable. Quite the contrary actually as that use of mass artillery worsens the actual bottle neck. Artillery barrels are wear parts... and they can't even come close to the prodcution numbers needed. Or are we anticipating meat waves with 152mm shells in their hands now?

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