chikorita157,
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Everything back together now with G3 goodness

I did discover that three clips that hold the front broke off already, need to glue them back at a later date, but the 8100 is mostly restored and quieter now as it only runs off the BlueSCSI, the HD is disconnected, but causes a slight about 10 sec delay when it cold boots.

yon,
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@chikorita157 Spinning hard disks isn’t something I’m nostalgic for:) So much noise! Quiet computers are the best.

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@yon I haven't really used a computer with a hard drive for a long while now. Most of my computers use SSDs (besides the NAS storage)

I wonder, will the BlueSCSI add an option for a motor to emulate hard drive sounds. :bunhdthink:

yon,
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@chikorita157 Emulated sounds seems to be a thing:) Floppy emulators like them. That said the really crazy hard drives had some crazy sounds. Like the 15k rpm drivers were pretty nuts.

chikorita157,
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@yon The WD Red Pro drives are really loud, I have two of them in the ThunderBay when the original RAID 10 array died in 2022, but I did have backups, so nothing got lost.

I wonder if BlueSCSI will ever add emulated drive sounds, for the nostalgia. They have it on the FloppyEmu making those floppy disk reading sounds.

yon,
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@chikorita157 Pretty sure it’s a wanted feature:)

Can it emulate multiple disks btw?

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@yon Yes, I have like 4 disk images and a folder that has a bunch of CD images. SCSI ID 3 is taken by the physical CD drive since I’m using an external one.

yon,
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@chikorita157 I always liked SCSI for some odd reason. Can’t claim any kind of magical superiority in it, and it’s always been a bit fidgety. But sometimes we like imperfect things for some reason :)

Double irony is that I don’t own any SCSI machines :)

chikorita157,
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@yon I have like two SCSI devices, a ZIP drive and an external hard drive. Basically, it’s like Thunderbolt back in the day, surprised there was an external SCSI video card.

Sure, the whole Performa 6200 and the 630 being terrible because it uses an IDE HD instead of SCSI is a thing, although it can use CF cards without using a BlueSCSI. However, one can’t beat the connivence of dropping files on the SD card that the BlueSCSI uses and not having to deal with ISO mounting programs or physical CDs.

Should try to pick up a beige Mac of any type some time. They can do some things that the newer Power Macs can’t do such as play games that require BW/4/16 colours or greys.

chikorita157,
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While an 8100 is a first gen high end Power Macintosh, probably don't get one of these as they aren't easy to work on. It uses the same tower design as the Quadra 800, which is hard to upgrade the RAM or remove the battery (if it haven't exploded yet). The potential of broken plastics if you open it up or take parts out the wrong way is a concern.

If you ware looking for a Mac that can run Mac OS 7 (for compatibility with older games), 6100 or 7100 if you want a Power PC 601 or the 7300/7500/7600/8600/9600 are better bets.

I don't recommend a Performa 6200/6300 since those are really slow and not that great Macs, they are really slow, but you can use cheap CF cards, but there are no G3 upgrades for them, except for those rare cache card PowerPC G3 accelerator cards. 6360/6400/6500 are okay, but limited G3 accelerator options, and can only go up to 128 MB of RAM.

If you don't care about Mac OS 7 or need lower color modes, a G3 or G4 Power Mac towers or a G4 Mac mini with a modified Mac OS 9 install are still cheaper, which will always be faster, at the expense of compatibility with earlier apps that may only work on Mac OS 7 and not 8.5/8.6 or 9.

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