Lemmy 0.18 is ready for testing

The new major version of Lemmy is now ready, and we need your help with testing. Most importantly it uses HTTP for API requests now, which is much more efficient than websocket. Additionally Two-factor-auth is supported. There are also countless other improvements and bug fixes.

You can register on any of the following servers to start testing, no approval required. You can post to your hearts content to find out if anything is broken. The test instances only federate with each other to avoid affecting production instances with spam.

If you encounter any bugs that aren't present in 0.17, open an issue and mention in the title that it happened with a release candicate version. Over the next days we will publish new RC versions to fix bugs that will invariably pop up.

Instance admins can try the new version by using Docker images dessalines/lemmy-ui:0.18.0-rc.2 and dessalines/lemmy:0.18.0-rc.1. Make sure that working backups are in place. For production instances its better to wait at least some days for the major issues to be fixed.

RoundSparrow,

I created a community /c/lemmycode and invite people to share information about beta testing and upgrade planning

DonDino, (edited )

Congratulations on the improvements to the protocol and to you 2 leftist sexy pimps for keeping the FOSS philosophy alive.

On behalf of the Mujican community, I send you a fraternal hug and we reiterate that we are with you in whatever is needed, wherever the fediverse takes us.

PlasmaK,

I hope that in future versions you will be able to use lemmy without javascript, or at least will be able to read posts without it. I know that everyone uses js monstrosities nowadays, but this seems like a project born out of care and not out of need to ship product under a deadline.

I don't demand for people to drop everything and work on it, just hope that this is kept in mind in future.

citizen67,

Can we please get the 10K char post limit raised to 50K or even 100K chars in v0.18? Many mods are desperate to get their wikis/guides ported from reddit and this has been a showstopping issue.

bojaber,
@bojaber@lemmy.ml avatar

This is a UI issue. As a temporary solution, you can modify the post (maxlength) using your browser's dev tools until lemmy devs implement a fix.

ddarkjedie,
xtremeownage,

A random note- federation, is being very weird for this particular server.

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">│ 2023-06-21T14:16:09.127573Z  WARN activitypub_federation::core::activity_queue: Queueing activity https://lemmyonline.com/activities/follow/d6d4fccb-c1e3-40ea-918b-6426d3080b3f to https://lemmy.world/inbox for retry after failure with status 502 Bad Gateway: <html>       │
</span><span style="color:#323232;">│ <head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     │
</span><span style="color:#323232;">│ <body>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          │
</span><span style="color:#323232;">│ <center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       │
</span><span style="color:#323232;">│ <hr><center>nginx/1.18.0 (Ubuntu)</center>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      │
</span><span style="color:#323232;">│ </body>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         │
</span><span style="color:#323232;">│ </html>  
</span>

(Also- I can’t actually see replies to this, due to… federation acting very weird with this particular server…)

Also- Is, there a changelog available for the upcoming 0.18 release?

dessalines,

0.18.0-rc.4 is now pushed up.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

frivolous critique, but using Star Trek series names for release candidate testing instances but not having “the next generation” seems like a missed opportunity.

nutomic,
@nutomic@lemmy.ml avatar

They are Star Trek vessels (or bases).

shootwhatsmyname,
@shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee avatar

Is there a full list somewhere of all new features for us to test?

maegul, (edited )
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

The test instances only federate with each other

I’m unable to find external communities on either ds9 or voyager. Also, ds9 seems to think it’s federated with instances other than these three.

Not a problem, but couldn’t test subscribing over federation, or, it’s broken 😅

Ghast,
stylishboar,

Navigating to a different page scrolls all the way to the bottom of the page. I assume it’s part of some feature to remember the previous position (i.e., when navigating back), but I don’t think it should apply when using the pagination navigation. I’m on mobile.

scientiam,

A bit off topic, but can something be done about the power mods? I see a few users already forking every subreddit trying to ensure they remain a mod. No user can meaningfully manage 50-100+ communities.

Please consider capping the limit to 20 or less. First-mover advantage is huge, so starting up a community down the road to prevent this consolidation of privileges is likely out of the question.

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

If you get a bad mod, you can always move to a community on another instance. That's one of the advantages of federation.

dogmuffins,

I think this is something reddit users generally have a hard time grasping about lemmy, including myself.

One of the fundamentals of the fediverse is that there will be communities with the same name on different instances. Users can subscribe to good ones and / unsubscribe from bad ones as they wish.

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

It's true, but people will automatically gravitate towards the larger ones where more discussion is held. By migrating to a community on another server, you're cutting yourself off from half the conversation, and a mod who abuses their power would likely know that. It would take a truly toxic mod to drive away all discussion, but even despots know how to toe the line to keep their core fans happy.

abraxas,

I do see a pure numbers challenge. We need more features (maybe on clients, or maybe in the Federation) to see all subbed instances of c/news together except whne it's important we don't.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

And an advantage of community redundancy. Old quiet communities can be literally brought back to life if we enough people decide to move.

wit,

Name and shame.

abraxas,

I think you have the right problem with the wrong answer.

It'd be better if communities could subsume other, worse-moderated communities with the same name in some integrated/organic way.

I mean, I could run c/politics on some server, but if another 20 or 30 instances agree on c/politics that's the winner. If they agree on c/politics because it's the better one and cross-moderates in some way, more power to them.

RoundSparrow,

Report from a tester that "Sign Up" with duplicate username or email is producing JSON errors and not a proper error message: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1356

RoundSparrow,
dessalines,

It's not shown because federation is turned off for those test instances.

RoundSparrow,

As of the time of this comment, i can not create a new post on Enterprise server. The bottom to submit the post goes grey (light green) and won't allow submit once I put a URL on a posting. Adding a title and body doesn't help.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/266720d3-704f-40f7-9b51-543a02f68cfe.png

RoundSparrow,

Another thing. even if I do a "create posts" button while in a community, the "community" drop-down box is not picking the community name.

If I'm on this page, https://enterprise.lemmy.ml/create_post?communityId=41380

The communityid parameter is passed, but the form for creating a post isn't picking it from the drop-down list. It still says "select a community", when I already was passing a community choice as a URL parameter...

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