this_1_is_mine,

Man its going to ask me to stop watching porn.

MrMeanJavaBean,

This really sounds like a security nightmare in the waiting

JasonDJ,

“Cortana, take care of this captcha for me.”

Hootz,

Kodachi on my main machine sounds like a good idea now.

AppleTea,

as if windows wasn’t already bloated and slow as hell, now your CPU is running a real time audit! Now that’s Quality Service with a capital kewoo

NoLifeGaming,

Time to get acquainted with Tux

exhaust_fan,

What’s Tux?

NoLifeGaming,

Name of the linux mascot, its the penguin you usually see associated with linux

exhaust_fan,

Thanks

moonburster,

So if finally is time to boot Linux on my surface book

AlecSadler,

Same…uh, recommendations?

moonburster,

There is a git with all surfaces lined up. Linux on surface or something. Great place to start, but beware that a lot of functions might not work

Sam_Bass,

If you see Kay, tell her no

king_of_pigeons, (edited )

According to my sources, AI Explorer will run in the background and capture everything you do on your computer.

Wtf

lustyargonian,

SteamOS can’t become a better alternative any sooner.

biggerbogboy,

Actually real, I’m genuinely planning to flash steamOS os my school laptop, sincr I have no need for adobe apps, I usually use web based stuff and the apps I do want are just games id likely be able to run through proton.

Inui,

You should check out Bazzite. Based on Fedora, works much the same way as SteamOS since its meant as a replacement, and there’s a version for non-Steamdecks. bazzite.gg

biggerbogboy,

Thanks man, I was actually trying tomake a similar implementation on another machine to test out, since I use fedora, but I never knew I could get it out of the box. I’ll try this out on one of my mains since I distro hop occasionally on there to test stuff.

scoobford,

I don’t know what you do or do not know about Linux, but I’d highly recommend using a desktop Linux distribution instead, like Fedora, OpenSUSE, Debian, or Arch. Something with quick releases so you get new performance improvements and bugfixes quickly.

SteamOS in particular is really cool on a handheld, but would be kind of irritating to use on a regular laptop. It’s also immutable, which protects you from fucking up too bad, but also makes certain types to configuration way harder.

I love Arch, but don’t install it unless you want to learn how it works. Archinstall is quick and easy if you aren’t scared of the terminal, but it doesn’t hold your hand at all and you will break something if you don’t read the news or fuck about without knowing what you’re doing.

Olhonestjim,

I got rid of my Surface, bought a FrameWork, and installed PopOS on it. Can’t say I’m any kind of a PC guru, certainly not a Linux expert, but it works awesome. I have zero complaints or regrets.

And I’m learneding.

biggerbogboy,

I’ve been using Linux since 4 years ago, I’ve distro hopped between Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Fedora and others, I’m currently on Fedora and its working well. I’m not too sure how to manually integrate windows apps into the mix, but it sounds it would take time I don’t really have.

ive known of the pitfalls of SteamOS, i fully agree with you on that and i was considering using it as a 2nd or 3rd option. someone actually mentioned me to use Bazzite, basically fedora based steamOS with either KDE or GNOME, and Android apps through Waydroid.

trying to get windows apps working for me at least was quite difficult last year, ill try it out this time and see if its easier, but if its not i may just switch to bazzite or other steamOS like distros.

PiratePanPan,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

bro is NOT using steamos on their laptop 😭

freebee,

I’m told that much of this experience is rendered on-device and does not reach out to the cloud to process information.

Yeah, right.

jkrtn,

If they’re already saying “much” to hedge that, I give until the end of the year before it is literally all of the information going to their servers.

exocortex,

they’ll probably do a lot of computation ally expensive preprocessing / analysis of your behavior on-device to save costs. They’ll only send home the relevant results of the analysis. So it’s “only very little of the data” - like the important part :-)

SuperSpruce, (edited )

Windows 11 is really shooting itself in the foot. Not just the privacy implications of this, but also the CPU and memory usage will surge once again. Why is this important?

I went to an electronics store recently to see the state of brand new laptop performance in 2024. Here’s what I found:

  • Laptops with 16GB RAM, an SSD, and a good CPU (3K/13K single/multi thread on Passmark) will run Windows 11 smoothly. File manager, task manager takes about a second to open, while the start menu takes around 400ms. It feels like a truck with 350hp.
  • Laptops with 8GB RAM, an SSD, and a mediocre CPU (2.5K/9K Passmark) will noticably struggle with Windows 11. The file manager takes 3 seconds to open and the start menu takes 1 second, with stutters and hiccups using it. It’ll be usable, but quite slow. It feels like a truck with 100hp.
  • Laptops with 4GB RAM, eMMC, and a bad CPU (1.5K/4K Passmark) will be brought to its knees by Windows 11. Task manager takes 27 seconds to open! A web browser takes even longer, and loading my light game somehow took 7 seconds (this game loaded in under a second on the better computers) to open. The CPU, RAM, and storage were pinned to 100% most of the time. Completely unacceptable performance, it’s like a truck with 10hp.
  • And a laptop with the above but with a CPU with a Passmark score of 1K/2.5K was so bad that it couldn’t open literally anything in Windows 11. It’s literally a brick. I cannot believe the store (a giant multinational company) is selling this laptop. It’s like a truck with 5hp that cannot go up a moderate hill.

But now, the store also sold ChromeOS laptops. As much as I hate how locked down ChromeOS was, I was delighted by the performance of it. The worst laptop specs I mentioned (4GB RAM, 64GB eMMC, CPU with 1K/2.5K Passmark score) ran actually quite reasonably on ChromeOS. It opens Chrome in about 3 seconds, and my game in 1 second, with some stutters but no freezes. It struggled with YouTube, but this is due to YouTube’s own bloat, which is like a 1000lb trailer to a bike with 5hp.

In conclusion, Windows is losing due to its incredible bloat. It’ll make every computer–including my friend’s 7900X, 4070, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, water-cooled beast–sweat, and will make low-end computers unusable. The super locked down ChromeOS is literally more desirable to me on laptops under $400. Yet Microsoft is still deciding to add even more bloat! No wonder why Linux market share is skyrocketing, because Windows can barely run on their computers!

I know you can disable this, but most non-techy people won’t even know this exists and won’t do anything to disable it, because they just want to browse the web and read emails. But the added bloat by this “feature” will cause them to notice their computers are even slower, and switch away from Windows when they realize they need a $800 Windows laptop to have a smooth OS experience, when they can buy a $250 Chromebook or $1000 Mac with a smooth OS experience.

TL;DR: Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot by adding more bloat to an obese OS, and Windows’s bloat is its biggest liability.

freebee,

I know you can disable this, but most non-techy people won’t even know this exists and won’t do anything to disable it,

Even if you can, the ones that do that get annoyed once again, as it will likely in windows tradition be randomly reset after an update: “oops, we reframed this feature you previously consciously turned off and thought we’ld give it a spin for you”

ILikeBoobies,

I disagree with Windows shooting itself in the foot

People will just buy better computers and throw out the ones that “don’t work”

jkrtn,

We are about to get a lot of very usable hardware at second-hand prices.

SuperSpruce,

They will buy better computers. Will it run Windows?

vulgarcynic,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I really want this to become the new “Can it run Crysis”.

SuperSpruce,

Windows 11 is probably heavier than the original Crysis in all metrics, and more than its sequels in certain metrics.

headset,

“AI Explorer will utilize next-gen neural processing unit (NPU) hardware to process these machine learning and generative AI experiences locally on the device with low latency.”

“The feature is also said to be exclusive to devices powered by Qualcomm’s upcoming Snapdragon X series chips,”

Tl;dr: you should read the article first

PiratePanPan,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

While that is compelling evidence, I offer a counterpoint:

He owns an airfryer.

SuperSpruce,

The article said "The feature is also said to be exclusive to devices powered by Qualcomm’s upcoming Snapdragon X series chips, at least at first.

And even if it requires a PC with at least 16GB RAM, then those computers will feel slower than they should be.

You999,

If you actually read Qualcomm’s white paper for their NPU you’d know OPs concerns about windows resource bloat is still a reasonable concern to have at least on the memory side of things.

The memory on their SoC is shared between the CPU, GPU, and critically the NPU. This is so they can save on memory bandwidth since they won’t have to copy the same data potentially three times over. However this also means by adding more AI bloat into windows will also clog up precise memory that could be used elsewhere.

That SoC, the snapdragon elite x supports eight channels of LPDDR5x which means the lowest amount of memory we could see is 16Gb assuming all eight channels used with 2Gb memory packages (which is the smallest size JEDEC allows LPDDR5x).

Is that really going to be enough for everything? In my opinion no because the the GPU will take a chunk, windows will take a chunk, the NPU will take a chunk, and the storage will try to take a chunk for caching if there’s anything left.

TL;DR: You should read the white papers instead of the marketing fluff articles.

kirbowo808,
kirbowo808 avatar

All the Windows fanbois must be kicking themselves as of late with Microsoft doing all these Ls, making those switching to MacOS/Linux for a better experience.

Gullible,

windows fanboys

Is there such a thing? I’m nearly certain that everyone is using windows as a result of compatibility issues and/or indifference. It’s an oxymoron, like “vanilla enthusiast.”

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You obviously missed some of the other posts about W11 spyware features 🤣😪

kirbowo808,
kirbowo808 avatar

Yeah where I’m from esp, mostly within the gaming/tech community tbh. Not so much general population.

CancerMancer,

I’ve seen a fair few. Depending on where you’re talking you’re liable to get called poor for suggesting the switch to Linux.

jkrtn,

LOL. I spent money to get good hardware, why would I then choose the worst-performing ad-ridden bloatware?

WalrusDragonOnABike,

But MS provides windows for free. It just has an ugly “activate windows” watermark.

notTheCat,

My friend couldn’t figure out Linux so he went back to Windows, he simps to it because “it just works”, and that’s a sw engineer we’re talking about

jkrtn,

I’ve seen not so much fanboys but more like enraged children who were unable to make Linux work with their hardware. Just hanging out wanting to start arguments in the comments sections of linuxmemes. They don’t seem to enjoy Windows, they just want to play games on Nvidia cards.

Correct me if I’m wrong, because I’d like to read if Windows has anything comparable to people nerding out about their Linux selfhosted stuff.

Sabre363,

Microsoft sure is putting a lot of effort into improving Linux lately

mindbleach,

The slow victory of open source is not paying money to be told “no.”

applepie,

switching a while back was best decision ever esp since Windows situation has been rapidly deteriorating. Yes to get most of linux there is a learning curve but once that is down, it is a superior experience most of the time. Privacy and Security is the cherry tho.

aStonedSanta,

What did ya swap too? I can’t seem to find a distro that discord works flawlessly on 🤔

applepie,

Tried mint but ended up with popos.

Don't use discrod so can't comment if it works otherwise satisfied

ichbinjasokreativ,

Discord snap on ubuntu has been working fine for me

aStonedSanta,

Ohhh. Interesting. Afaik it doesn’t work natively. Safely avoiding Ubuntu for now. Testing Garuda and a few others this week.

thanksforallthefish,

What’s your discord issue ? It’s been working fine for me for years

aStonedSanta,

Screen sharing not passing audio.

potajito,

Use vesktop instead. (it’s in flatpak for example)

KISSmyOSFeddit,

It won’t record mine. 🍥🐧😁

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