I try to swear only when I mean it, and fuck off Microsoft. I’d rather take the few seconds or even couple minutes it takes to type out the beginning of an e-mail or set up a new app than have something recording my every move.
The development will be something like: in 2025 it will be offline, optional, and meant to optimize efficiency. In 2026 it will be online, mandatory for updates, and also used to optimize advertising. Finally in 2027 it will be fully integrated and aimed at sales of extensive data to companies who desire to know what habits users exhibit and so on. I have no faith whatsoever that my interests will outweigh the potential profits of knowing what every PC user is doing all the time.
It’s probably their shock and awe strategy. They are pushing this anti privacy shit hard and then pull back on it on the next release. But in reality they leave a lot of that shit in. Like how Windows 10 is worse than windows 7, but it’s better than 8 so 10 feels like an improvement for people.
Products you pay for should not have the ability to exploit you.
If micro$oft wants to provide free computer software to all it's exploited users, that's a different conversation.
Until then you have better options available.
They really want me to shift my gaming PC to Linux. Gaming is the only reason it’s still in windows 10.
But now? Ads? Full time spying? And they choose to do all this at a time when proton is making gaming on Linux easier than ever?
Okay then. Heck. I’ll gladly help my friends install Linux in their main device.
Hey government. This includes all your devices too. I’m sure you’ll be able to turn it off, and by some bug oversight it just hides everything but not actually turn it off.
Do something about it. Stop blindly trusting bigcorp to do the right thing. They’ve proven time and time again they WILL NOT.
We’re in a thread about Windows malfeasance and that’s what the Windows users say about their ad-ridden trash heap of an OS. Why would we tolerate the same behavior just because it is on top of a Linux kernel?
It isn’t. But they are pushing it more aggressively. The latest release will tell you it can’t even open .deb files anymore. The Ubuntu store will load indefinitely and not be able to install it. ( read it in a blog post ). And it’s opening deb files in archive manager by default rather than the software centre.
Even if it is just a bug. It is one they are refusing to fix ( and one that I can’t imagine being difficult to solve ).
It still works over CLI for now, which is how I usually install deb’s. But if I have to go online to download all kinds of debs it feels like I’m back in the 90s windows downloading a bunch of exe’s I no have to manage myself.
It’s more of a statement against Ubuntu and how canonical is handling the snap packages. Maybe it won’t be so easy to disable it in the future. Or maybe apt will barely be able to install anything anymore if you disable snap since that seems to be all they went you to run.
In any case. I don’t really like the direction they’re headed, and I’d rather not have to distro hop in two years because canonical decide to make snap mandatory.
Snap has not worked out well for me in the past :(.
I’ve been considering putting Mint on my system, then adding the new version of Unity that Canonical doesn’t contribute to. Last time I used Linux was when Ubuntu finally had Unity working well and I really miss the HUD thing. Tapping alt to search the menus for the tool I wanted in Gimp was very nice.
I have no idea. I wound up removing Linux from my system years ago due to Pulse/ALSA problems and going back to Windows. Not willing to pay a subscription for extended Win10 support, and I won’t touch 11, so I’m looking at moving back to Linux. Especially since audio is supposed to be better now.
Mint & popOS are both Debian tree distros and Ubuntu derivatives without the snap cruft.
They work fine for gaming in my experience as any linux native game is always tested against ubuntu and I’ve had no issues with Steam/proton for windows games.
No EAC anti cheat compatability for Linux of any flavour of course.
I mean kinda, but there are still some software and version differences that can make some stuff behave differently. my brother has been tinkering with chromebook with touch screen. and he hasn’t found a distro yet where everything works. in some distros sound doesn’t work, in some touchscreen doesn’t work, in some keyboard doesn’t work etc.
so while the experience is mostly same there are still some differences, they do show up easier with odd hardware though
…but seriously, it uses Debian as a base for its upstream packages instead of Ubuntu. They’re very similar and you won’t notice a difference.
I’ll disagree and suggest to go with the latest release of the normal (Ubuntu-based) Mint instead. I prefer Debian over Ubuntu, but there’s realistically little difference. And if you’re just getting into the Linux world, you’ll want to be using what’s used by most people in case you run into problems and want to follow written instructions or ask for support.
I’m used to gnome, and I currently tried out garuda. It’s a tad weird as there’s no app bar anywhere with “running apps”. If I execute it again it just starts a new one. Which is strange behaviour.
It works quite well for what it should do, but I’m feeling a bit lost in it. It also feels if I’d want to do something else ( like coding ) that it wouldn’t be very intuitive.
The nobara gnome screenshot looks similar ( no app drawer ). Are you running it in gnome or kde/official?
you can change that from gnome tweaks I believe. and I have gnome underneath but I use i3. i used to have just fedora with just the i3 using fedora installer but it got a bug of some kind that I just didn’t get the propiertary nvidia drivers to work no matter what I did
Hey government. This includes all your devices too. I’m sure you’ll be able to turn it off, and by some bug oversight it just hides everything but not actually turn it off.
My work computer upgraded to 11 last week and I I’m sure I’m giving away people’s personal info via the OS
My work is also rolling out the Win11 updates, and I am wondering if they knew about this. There are many things that require secret/TS clearance via temp badge and pass on certain project as well as low level sensitive documents.
If Win11 is recording all of this, they have committed about 100,000 felonies by illegally recording these documents from not just us but all the government contractors.
Install Ventoy onto a USB, copy over a few distro images onto it, and now you can boot up and try a few.
If you know anyone running Linux just run the same distro as them unless it’s one of the intimidating ones: easiest way to beat the learning curve is to work with someone else. Otherwise grab a beginner-friendly distro. I once started with Ubuntu but today I’d probably start with PopOS
I’m gonna be honest with you, Linux is so much more simple than people make it out to be. If it’s your first time dipping into that world, you can grab Ubuntu, KDE neon, or Linux Mint, all of which are very stable and beginner friendly. Ubuntu has a more unique look to it, and neon/mint looks more like windows. You can run and manage both without ever having to open a terminal or dive into any code, just use it like a normal computer and you’ll be fine. I’ve been using Linux since about '08, I’m not a sysadmin or coder or anything like that. I play most of my games in Linux with no problem
that’s a fair point. I just think the Linux community does itself a disservice by making things seem way more complicated and techy when it’s really not that crazy at all. It can be, sure, but that’s entirely up to the user
Probably stupid question that I can look up, but I think Linux expounding isn’t a problem here:
I have an Intel/Nvidia laptop as my only machine right now. I’ve read the jokes about how hard it is to get working peripherals and the jokes about the brains of those who can’t get them to work.
I’m an amateur web dev (looking to un-amateur) so while a command line isn’t super scary, it sure would feel like work or daunting at least for a bit. I also gotta share the machine.
So I guess the question is: how true are those peripheral driver issue things for say random stuff like using a Dual Sense controller with (I think this is the right name) Proton for the gaming nights, and am I right in assuming any distro (except those mutable or atomic distributions that seem to be divisive) that is “beginner friendly” with a GUI for the family is still going to enable me to poke into further learning with the CLI, i.e. you don’t sacrifice full featured command line for GUI?
Silly ahead of myself concern, but if I can avoid needing to learn more PowerShell junk and just focus on learning Bash, that’s actually a bonus I hadn’t thought of.
Those are great questions! Dualsense is supported through drivers provided by PlayStation and to my best recollection, most features work out of the box. Last I recall, the adaptive triggers weren’t functional outside of normal trigger activity and the audio jack doesn’t audio. Proton is a tool that Steam/Valve made to make most windows games work within Linux without needing a lot of tinkering. I’ve had mostly success with it, however some games still won’t work, usually due to anti cheat software. There’s a website called protondb.com that can be used to check the compatibility of most games and it usually offers tips for getting the best performance depending on the game.
As for the GUI vs CLI question, you’ll still have full access to the terminal or command line through the terminal emulator. Think of it like the cmd prompt in Windows. You sacrifice nothing by using a graphical interface and can still do all your terminal work without a GUI if you’d prefer, that’s entirely up to your preference. For example, with Ubuntu, you have your software center, which is essentially an app store that you can use to download different programs and/or utilities. You can use that, or you can open a terminal emulator and type in something like “sudo apt install Firefox” and it will do the same thing.
Linux can be as complicated or simple as you want to make it, as the owner of the computer, everything is entirely up to you. You can rely entirely on GUI based applications and never run into a problem. I do a little of both, but I’ve also got several years of experience tinkering around with things.
I don’t know what your current level of proficiency is outside of webdev, but if you’re familiar with virtual machines, like VMware, you can spin up a virtual environment and test drive Linux without having to modify your existing computer at all. With this being a shared computer, you could always dualboot it. That’s when you have two different operating systems installed at the same time. When you power on your PC, you’ll get a menu to pick windows or Linux and can switch by restarting your PC to get back to that menu. Windows files will be accessible in Linux, however Linux files are usually not accessible in Windows.
Drivers are pretty easy, most are already built into the Linux kernel. For Nvidia drivers, you have open source drivers, or proprietary drivers. The open source ones are readily available in almost every distro, and the propriety (better performing) drivers are a few clicks away. Most times, you’ll be asked if you want the proprietary drivers during your installation and won’t have to mess with them ever again.
I know I hit you with a full essay and a half, and it may seem like a lot, but I promise you it’s really not as complicated as people like to make it seem. My elderly mother ran Linux on a laptop I gave her years ago without even noticing for years. If you have questions, there’s a million and a half different places to ask, including my DMs. Feel free to shoot me a question, and I’ll do a little digging to see what I can teach you.
This was amazing. Thank you so much for taking the time to write it all out! I really do have no reason to not dual boot. I only have one site community to manage, and I had help with the original configuration so my exposure to Linux has mostly been the occasional CentOS foray to update the stack throughout the years and start a few experiments that fizzled (but not that backup script! Woo!). I guess seeing it all in one place is just what I needed; there’s no reason to give it a VM a try. I already got WSL installed to “try Ubuntu” I told myself, but well, didn’t have much of a project to try. Your “essay” was the information I needed to get me to just give dual booting a try, work on daily driving it (I write as a hobby, and I heard there’s a trillion of good open source note apps out there, so there’s mini-project one, get a dual boot and a basic “Music,coffee,notes,wordprocessor” no-frills inst–Oh, I see how it starts with y’all. Thanks for your time, truly!
Lol anytime my dude! There’s plenty of options out there for you. I personally use vim for journalling and some other light text stuff, but that’s a fairly minimal terminal tool. You can go that route, or you can grab Libre Office (Microsoft office alternative), or whatever else best fits your wants and needs. Like I said, my DMs are open if you have questions, but I do want to reiterate that I am not a professional, I’m just some dude who learned about this junk in highschool and has been using it as your average everyday computer nerd. I hope you not only learn a few things, but I hope you have fun exploring. If it doesn’t work out, oh well, nuke it and go back to what works best for you. It’s your computer, use it how you want to, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise.
One last recommendation before I hop off my soapbox, assuming you give Ubuntu a shot, I’d recommend checking out some of their different “flavors”. They all work the same under the hood, but give you a different UI to work within. You can swap whenever, or run all of them, it’s your call. I prefer Gnome (the G is not silent), it’s Ubuntu’s default, but there’s Mate (pronounced like the tea, mah-tay), Kde (short for Kool desktop environment, no I’m not joking), xfce, unity, and more. Other than that, have fun!
Yes. That’s why I use Win7 for legacy stuff and Linux for everything else. On Win7 it was still easy to deactivate (disable a few Tasks and a few checkboxes). Since the updates stopped that PC is super stable too.
What facts? Genuinely curious. Microsoft Software in general is pretty bad when it comes to found and or exploited security problems.
I admit with all the legacy compatibility it must be hard to maintain Windows, but other projects manage that better.
Yet again it’s a feature that can be disabled, not to mention your hardware probably will not even support it. Obviously something like AI assistant will monitor everything you do same as voice assistants like Google and Alexa monitors audio 24/7 if you want to wake it up with voice commands. Article mentions a macOS software doing exact same thing called Rewind.
Unless all of important recorded data will not be saved locally, this is yet another nothingburger instead of ″Look at Microsoft killing itself, everyone will move to Linux next year″ nonesense.
Would I personally use this feature? Probably not, I would disable it and move on mainly because I have no need for this. Will there be people who will use this? Absolutely.
When you HAVE to use it at work and you have NO choice in the matter it’s really irritating seeing all these posts berating you instead of the company itself. Additionally most of the time most of these features come automatically disabled if you leave in the EU like me, cause of, you know, GDPR. So yes, they need to make it an optional feature because fines based on revenue are no joke. That said you are not gonna convince people by berating them with clown emojis, you’ll only prove that whatever you are advocating for is supported by a toxic community. But you do you…
Bootlicker making excuses for predatory corporate practices will not be convinced. Merely identifying this comment as work of a bad faith actor for purposes of the discussion.
He is entitled to his opinion and I can challenge it as I see the most effective. That's how the internet works...
Nobody said you can’t, just know that whatever you write in a public space will be read by everyone. Being aggressive by namecalling and taunting will make you look bad and whatever you preach will look bad to everyone. Sorry for being so annoying about it, just wanted to share this thought with you.
You always could have disabled Cortana (no longer a thing btw) and you can disable Copilot if that’s what you thought about. Edge is another story, it does provide other functionality (WebView2) and is not just a Web browser so there is no official way to disable it. There will be something close to disabling it, but I doubt it will be truly removed from OS, just hidden from sight. Use another browser and forget it is there, I see it only if I explicitly search for it.
If you want to truly make your OS yours and fully remove most of the stuff you do not want, Windows is not and never will be for that, ″King of customization″ title belongs to Linux.
All we have here is people losing their minds over a new feature that can be disabled.
switching a while back was best decision ever esp since Windows situation has been rapidly deteriorating. Yes to get most of linux there is a learning curve but once that is down, it is a superior experience most of the time. Privacy and Security is the cherry tho.
All the Windows fanbois must be kicking themselves as of late with Microsoft doing all these Ls, making those switching to MacOS/Linux for a better experience.
Is there such a thing? I’m nearly certain that everyone is using windows as a result of compatibility issues and/or indifference. It’s an oxymoron, like “vanilla enthusiast.”
I’ve seen not so much fanboys but more like enraged children who were unable to make Linux work with their hardware. Just hanging out wanting to start arguments in the comments sections of linuxmemes. They don’t seem to enjoy Windows, they just want to play games on Nvidia cards.
Correct me if I’m wrong, because I’d like to read if Windows has anything comparable to people nerding out about their Linux selfhosted stuff.
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