topinambour_rex,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

The state Irland shouldn’t be republic of Irland ?

EinfachUnersetzlich,

No, the state is called Ireland as defined in its constitution.

topinambour_rex,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the information.

Habahnow,

Can someone do one for terminology? Is calling people British mainly socially acceptable? I imagine the exception is the Irish from Ireland, but those from northern Ireland may give that a pass?

GeneralEmergency,

northern Ireland may give that a pass?

Never push a national identity onto someone from Northern Ireland. Because that’s also a political Identity

In general British is a national identity. English/Scottish/Welsh would be a cultural identity.

You would call them what they say they are.

ramble81,

Call someone from Scotland British and see how that works out for you….

Mr_Blott,

I’m perfectly happy being called British

Just don’t refer to the UK as Engurlaaand

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

Seems to work very well in most cases.

Mr_Blott,

What’s the bets ramble81 calls himself Scottish cos his great great great great great great great great great great great great granda once sniffed a Tunnock’s Teacake? 😂

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

I'm not going to take a pop at them because it is entirely possible that they live in Scotland, are passionate about Scottish independence and has similarly committed friends and family. Likewise, I'm only speaking from personal experience as someone who is English, but has discussed stuff with Scottish friends on occassion.

smeg,

Going by the last polls it’s about an equal chance whether they’d approve or not

hemko,

I’d think calling Scot a Brit is like calling Peruvian an American. Technically true but kinda rude

smeg,

Depends on their own views on the union. Don’t go lumping people together as all having the same opinion now!

DScratch,

No one outside of the UK includes Ireland in the British Isles.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I would… (Australian)

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

Speaking of! Shouldn’t Australia be in that chart too? And I’d like to see the “commonwealth” in the diagram too. It’s all good complicated!

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar
_Gandalf_the_Black_,

I’m English and I don’t either. It’s a pretty obvious hangover of British imperial pretensions.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

Yeh, I don't think I would either. It does feel disrepectful

Skua,

"British and Irish Isles" is the most common descriptor for the whole archipelago I see, and it seems a fair one even if it's a bit long. It'd be nice if we could all agree on something catchier but that seems unlikely, all things considered

hemko,

If we removed Brits from the world map, we could call it just Ireland

DScratch,

Gaelic Isles

Welt,

Celtic would be better. Gaelic literally means coming from the Gaels, aka the Irish. Welsh and Cornish are Brythonic language speakers, not Goidelic/Gaelic, but they are all Celtic languages. The Angles, Saxons, Frisians and Jutes invaded Celtic Britain starting in the 400s.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Cool!

I wonder… how do/does Shetland islands?/ Archipelago? fit into this?

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

They’re just part of Scotland. Although the nearby Orkney Islands (also part of Scotland) have recently flirted with leaving the UK and becoming part of Norway.

grue,

Why Orkney and not Shetland (or does Shetland want to leave too)? I would’ve figured it’d be the one physically further away from Britain that would feel less affiliation.

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I know what you mean, it is a bit odd. I’m not sure why Orkney and not Shetland. Doubt it’ll ever happen tbh!

steeznson,

They were mainly floating the idea in a bid to get more funding allocated from the Scottish government

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

Ah ok :-)

_Gandalf_the_Black_,

The term British Isles is, of course, disputed by the Irish.

NigelFrobisher,

They had a signpost in the Atlantic saying “Irish Isles” for weeks before we noticed.

Gabu,

How about we collective reestablish the name “Albion”, then?

thesporkeffect,

Treacherous Albion

Welt,

I prefer Perfidious Albion

thesporkeffect,

I’m an idiot

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

You mean the Irish Isles?

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

what about canada and australia?

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown,

I did not wake up this morning expecting to read someone claiming that Canada is an island.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

And I’ll take offence to being called an island, we’re a continent down here.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

But Hans Island is an island, and it’s ours! 🇩🇰

nickhammes,

show the entire commonwealth, and every place the UK has ever colonized?

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

well sorry idk the difference between commomweath and the map, isn’t that the point?

nickhammes,

pretty much! The commonwealth is what the British empire became, most former British colonies are members, and King Charles is its head, though most member states are republics now, and don’t have him as their king. It’s a mostly-cerrmonial political group that occasionally does things like promote trade or diplomacy

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

Is India part of the commonwealth?

nickhammes,

Yup, every British colony as of 1945 joined the commonwealth except Myanmar, and one called Aden that is now part of Yemen

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

TIL! Thank you dear sir!

Ephera,

For a moment, I thought, this comment was in response to the Europe map someone else posted. There the answer would have been easy, of course: Eurovision. 🙃

onion,
Lemminary,

Why does this feel like high school all over again

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

Because it is. You never graduated and you have a test right now that you didn’t study for. You’re also in your underwear.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown,

I think this chart is out of date

Gork,
Lemminary,
sqgl,

eg Croatia is now in the EU and Eurozone (maybe Schengen area too).

catacomb,

Interesting though as it shows what “hard Brexit” was. Not in the customs union, economic area or council; just yeeted all the way out.

The best part is the voting slip never defined any of it and, if taken literally, the UK would still be in the EEA.

NigelFrobisher,

We’re currently alone in two new zones called “Fucked around” and “Found out”.

Ephera,

Huh, is that the old Jersey?

HeartyOfGlass,

They prefer the term “Jersey Classic”

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

Ye Olde Jersey

Pons_Aelius, (edited )

Yup. Though original is probably the better description.

synae,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The new jersey is extra crispy

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

The OJ

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

and the Original Guernsey (not to be confused with the new one)

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar
smeg,

A quiet little tax haven full of polite stuffy old people. I’m thinking of visiting the new one, I assume it’s much the same?

ComradePorkRoll,

Not at all.

incogtino,

This is a good way to distinguish the terms. I wonder if there is a good colour scheme to also indicate the nation states as district from the landmasses

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