Euler diagram of the terminology of the British Isles
Apologies. This might not be the perfect community for the post.
Apologies. This might not be the perfect community for the post.
topinambour_rex, The state Irland shouldn’t be republic of Irland ?
EinfachUnersetzlich, No, the state is called Ireland as defined in its constitution.
topinambour_rex, Thanks for the information.
Habahnow, Can someone do one for terminology? Is calling people British mainly socially acceptable? I imagine the exception is the Irish from Ireland, but those from northern Ireland may give that a pass?
GeneralEmergency, northern Ireland may give that a pass?
Never push a national identity onto someone from Northern Ireland. Because that’s also a political Identity
In general British is a national identity. English/Scottish/Welsh would be a cultural identity.
You would call them what they say they are.
ramble81, Call someone from Scotland British and see how that works out for you….
Mr_Blott, I’m perfectly happy being called British
Just don’t refer to the UK as Engurlaaand
HeartyBeast, Seems to work very well in most cases.
Mr_Blott, What’s the bets ramble81 calls himself Scottish cos his great great great great great great great great great great great great granda once sniffed a Tunnock’s Teacake? 😂
HeartyBeast, I'm not going to take a pop at them because it is entirely possible that they live in Scotland, are passionate about Scottish independence and has similarly committed friends and family. Likewise, I'm only speaking from personal experience as someone who is English, but has discussed stuff with Scottish friends on occassion.
smeg, Going by the last polls it’s about an equal chance whether they’d approve or not
hemko, I’d think calling Scot a Brit is like calling Peruvian an American. Technically true but kinda rude
smeg, Depends on their own views on the union. Don’t go lumping people together as all having the same opinion now!
DScratch, No one outside of the UK includes Ireland in the British Isles.
ada, I would… (Australian)
PlutoniumAcid, Speaking of! Shouldn’t Australia be in that chart too? And I’d like to see the “commonwealth” in the diagram too. It’s all good complicated!
HeartyBeast,
_Gandalf_the_Black_, I’m English and I don’t either. It’s a pretty obvious hangover of British imperial pretensions.
HeartyBeast, Yeh, I don't think I would either. It does feel disrepectful
Skua, "British and Irish Isles" is the most common descriptor for the whole archipelago I see, and it seems a fair one even if it's a bit long. It'd be nice if we could all agree on something catchier but that seems unlikely, all things considered
hemko, If we removed Brits from the world map, we could call it just Ireland
DScratch, Gaelic Isles
Welt, Celtic would be better. Gaelic literally means coming from the Gaels, aka the Irish. Welsh and Cornish are Brythonic language speakers, not Goidelic/Gaelic, but they are all Celtic languages. The Angles, Saxons, Frisians and Jutes invaded Celtic Britain starting in the 400s.
agent_flounder, Cool!
I wonder… how do/does Shetland islands?/ Archipelago? fit into this?
sanguinepar, They’re just part of Scotland. Although the nearby Orkney Islands (also part of Scotland) have recently flirted with leaving the UK and becoming part of Norway.
grue, Why Orkney and not Shetland (or does Shetland want to leave too)? I would’ve figured it’d be the one physically further away from Britain that would feel less affiliation.
sanguinepar, Yeah, I know what you mean, it is a bit odd. I’m not sure why Orkney and not Shetland. Doubt it’ll ever happen tbh!
steeznson, They were mainly floating the idea in a bid to get more funding allocated from the Scottish government
sanguinepar, Ah ok :-)
_Gandalf_the_Black_, The term British Isles is, of course, disputed by the Irish.
NigelFrobisher, They had a signpost in the Atlantic saying “Irish Isles” for weeks before we noticed.
Gabu, How about we collective reestablish the name “Albion”, then?
thesporkeffect, Treacherous Albion
Welt, I prefer Perfidious Albion
thesporkeffect, I’m an idiot
Deceptichum, You mean the Irish Isles?
MissJinx, what about canada and australia?
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown, I did not wake up this morning expecting to read someone claiming that Canada is an island.
Deceptichum, And I’ll take offence to being called an island, we’re a continent down here.
PlutoniumAcid, But Hans Island is an island, and it’s ours! 🇩🇰
nickhammes, show the entire commonwealth, and every place the UK has ever colonized?
MissJinx, well sorry idk the difference between commomweath and the map, isn’t that the point?
nickhammes, pretty much! The commonwealth is what the British empire became, most former British colonies are members, and King Charles is its head, though most member states are republics now, and don’t have him as their king. It’s a mostly-cerrmonial political group that occasionally does things like promote trade or diplomacy
MissJinx, Is India part of the commonwealth?
nickhammes, Yup, every British colony as of 1945 joined the commonwealth except Myanmar, and one called Aden that is now part of Yemen
MissJinx, TIL! Thank you dear sir!
Ephera, For a moment, I thought, this comment was in response to the Europe map someone else posted. There the answer would have been easy, of course: Eurovision. 🙃
onion,
Lemminary, Why does this feel like high school all over again
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot, Because it is. You never graduated and you have a test right now that you didn’t study for. You’re also in your underwear.
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown, I think this chart is out of date
Gork,
Lemminary,
sqgl, eg Croatia is now in the EU and Eurozone (maybe Schengen area too).
catacomb, Interesting though as it shows what “hard Brexit” was. Not in the customs union, economic area or council; just yeeted all the way out.
The best part is the voting slip never defined any of it and, if taken literally, the UK would still be in the EEA.
NigelFrobisher, We’re currently alone in two new zones called “Fucked around” and “Found out”.
Ephera, Huh, is that the old Jersey?
HeartyOfGlass, They prefer the term “Jersey Classic”
BolexForSoup, Ye Olde Jersey
Pons_Aelius, (edited ) Yup. Though original is probably the better description.
synae, The new jersey is extra crispy
agent_flounder, The OJ
cypherpunks, and the Original Guernsey (not to be confused with the new one)
Deceptichum, Can I confuse it with this one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey_(Australian_rules_football)
smeg, A quiet little tax haven full of polite stuffy old people. I’m thinking of visiting the new one, I assume it’s much the same?
ComradePorkRoll, Not at all.
incogtino, This is a good way to distinguish the terms. I wonder if there is a good colour scheme to also indicate the nation states as district from the landmasses
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