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ruud, in Lemmy.world
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You can create an account, if you like.

m3t00,
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how to get on this list midwest.social/instances

ruud,
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I’m not sure. We also have this list lemmy.world/instances and it auto-fills. Not sure what triggers it.

m3t00,
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tried to login to midwest.social. seems lemmy.world isn’t in their list. they’re in your list. eh, probably waiting for an admin to approve. thanks

m3t00,
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seems to work today. takes some time for things to sync

m3t00,
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lemmy.world is in their list today

ruud, in Lemmy.world
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ruud, in Lemmy.world
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E-mail is working now

ruud, in Lemmy.world
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Added a banner as test, but need an official banner for Lemmy.world. (@vsp ? :-) )

ruud, in Lemmy.world
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Woohoo federation works now!

PriorProject, in Where to find help learning more about the fediverse

I am wondering if there is a discord (ironic i know if there is something equvialent let me know) where I can get into contact with people developing in this space.

I assume there are probably some discords somewhere, but I'd encourage you to communicate on the fediverse about the work you're doing to improve it. Experience with the fediverse helps people understand the ways in which it can/should improve. And also highlights the ways it NEEDS to improve, if you yourself prefer to use discord even to talk about goings on in the Fediverse, then figuring out WHY you prefer that is probably the first improvement you want to work on.

How does a different architecture like kbin@social ui (and possible backend) communicate with posts from lemmy? Is it through ActivityPub?

Yes, ActivityPub is what allows this, though different apps use ActivityPub in different ways, which pragmatically leads to different levels of useful interoperability.

If you want to learn more about this, I'd recommend setting up a private Lemmy, a private kbin, a private mastodon, and maybe others you're interested in. Try to federate them and see how it works and what it looks like from each app.

For example, with Mastodon Federating with Lemmy, I've heard that a Lemmy community looks like a Mastodon account to follow, posts to the Lemmy community looks like toot threads, and comments look like replies in the toot threads. It feels a little weird as a Lemmy user to see these things out of their normal UI context, but that's how Mastodon handles the elements of the AcitivtyPub protocol that Lemmy uses. And it works pretty ok for casual interaction with a Lemmy community, though I'd generally prefer using a real Lemmy account to interact with Lemmy communities because it represents these things in a more intuitive way to me.

Could someone from lemmy login to mastodon with their same account? Why or why not?

You can't use your Mastodon account to log into a Lemmy instance because accounts are bound to an instance. What you CAN do, is use your Mastodon account on your Mastodon instance to "follow" a Lemmy community through federation. Then Lemmy posts will appear in your Mastodon timeline as toot threads, and comments as toots in those threads.

Other fediverse apps may usefully interoperate with Lemmy in different ways, or they may not interoperate in a useful way even though they both use ActivityPub because they use it too differently.

Could two different fediverse apps technically do all the same things if they used the exact protocol to do the same things with a different ui?

Yes, kbin and Lemmy are fairly close to this. I think kbin tries to have a Mastodon-like toot interface as well, though I'm not that familiar.

If someone wanted to go about making their own fediverse app where is a good first learning step?

Good first learning steps include:

  • Making accounts on different well-established fediverse apps and using them. I've learned the above answers just by doing that.
  • Installing your own instances of Fediverse apps you like. This will force you to understand how they work more deeply as you set up federation and see more of their internals.
  • Find ways to help existing projects. Right now, there's a flood of newcomers to Lemmy. Just watching for questions like this and answering takes stress off Lemmy devs and other established community members who are too busy to get to them all. Submit well-formed bug reports, or pull requests that improve performance or fix bugs on existing app projects. Help instance admins debug performance and other issues, or new admins set up their first instance.

I would advise NOT trying to make your own fediverse app. The fediverse is littered with failed vanity projects that either never worked well enough to use, or that worked well and didn't get used anyway. Much more than new apps, what the fediverse needs is community members populating the existing fediverse apps with interesting things to do and talk about, and developer communities helping the overworked devs of existing projects mature the best fediverse apps faster than the current devs can do alone.

HiddenTower, in My Fediverse instances
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Wow you're really plugged in to the fediverse. Which of the systems you run are the easiest? What aspect is missing in the fediverse that you hope will get developed in the future? Also, how did you get to grow mastodon.world so much? I'm new to this world, there is a lot to learn :-)

ruud,
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Well running them all is easy, I mainly use Docker for running them, which makes it easy. I just hope all platforms will be developed to maturity, and they will all follow the activitypub standards so they can communicate with each other. Now, some platforms implement features a bit differently from eachother.

I didn't make mastodon.world grow so much, it just happened to me. Mainly thanks to mr. Musk. Details on that are here: https://blog.mastodon.world/and-then-november-happened

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thebestlettuce, in My Fediverse instances

How do you fund mastodon.world? Do you collect donations?

ruud,
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Yes. See the sidebar on the homepage for the links.

thebestlettuce,

How much are the operating costs a month usually?

ruud,
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Around 400-500 EUR. I also try to keep a blog about the finances https://blog.mastodon.world but I'm a bit behind..

cjerrington, in Introducing Import from Instagram - Pixelfed blog
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This is going to be a game changer for the Pixelfed community!

JamesMattDillion, in My Fediverse instances

If I went over mastodon, when I need to create a new account, or just use this one?

ruud,
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A mastodon account is separate from your Lemmy account.

Emerald_Earth, in Lemmy.world

Where it all began

ZeroDrek, in What Reddit Got Wrong
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So is everyone actually staying here? I hope so. I am. I don’t really miss Reddit at all and I’m incredibly impressed how fast the community here is growing. I hope we can keep it going and let Reddit burn to the ground.

CookieJarObserver,

I won't go away, im like cancer. Even if you remove me i will come back.

DesGrieux,

I miss it. There's just not enough people here. Refreshing doesn't bring hardly anything new, none of my favorite communities exist, and where they do they're so small that nothing gets posted for an entire day.

I mean, I know these things take time but I'm pessimistic.

zipsglacier,

I miss reddit too, but I'm realizing that I miss what I thought it was, and not what it is becoming. It's useful to remember that for mastodon it took years, and many separate waves of migration, for it to have its current use base. So, when people say it will take time, and it will be hard, this is what they're talking about.

Goldenderp,

I do too, tbh i miss the less techy people. People that aren't particular comfortable with new fangled technojiggeties just figured out reddit, they'll take a long time and a lot of client improvement to come here..

DmMacniel,

Time to be the change :)

Gormadt,
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Honestly I kinda like how slow things progress around here

I refresh and nothing changed so I go do something else for a little while, it's pretty nice NGL

Kyoyeou,
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Yeah, yesterday I was bored and went on Lemmy, I just had gone a bit much and didn't have anything new interesting, so I went and relearned Plant Tissues and relearn about atoms on a new website I had discovered, had a great time

hydra,

I think it was about time we slowed down the Internet, corporation backed megasites are becoming unsustainable after the end of ZIRP and venture capital drying up. Also it's so full of bots and mindless people right now it isn't funny.``

Aninjanameddaryll,
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Yup. Reddit as we knew it is dead, no matter what else happens

jontree255,
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Like others have said, this is an opportunity to build something new and be the change we want to see. This mindset has led to me posting more here in the past week than the 10 years or whatever I was on Reddit.

pixel_witch,
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I don't really have a lot to contribute, its only recently I went from being a lurker to really engaging with the community on Reddit, perhaps here I will feel more like engaging instead of just doomscrolling until my eyes fall out.

DmMacniel,

Yeah I will stay hear. And not just because I burnt my account. I nearly found all communities I were active in. I try to be way more active and post more stuff than I used to because these new Comms really need all the love and content each and everyone of us can hring to them.

This is how Lemmy and co can survive and thrive not by waiting for content to arrive.

Silviecat44,

I will stay

metic,
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It all depends on if the communities about topics I'm interested in start gaining some activity. So far it's mostly meta, memes, and remakes of the very largest subreddits, which is the type of stuff I typically ignore over there.

Arcanus,

I'm staying, the Fediverse is a new realm, and I get to be a part of building it

Pixlbabble,

Day 2 and counting... Old Reddit was great. After a while I had no idea where all the smart people went.

golli,

Personally I do miss Reddit. Mostly because it was just so convenient: easy to use and you got active communities for basically anything you'd want.

However quiting it so instantly has shown me how reliant I was on it to serve as a single gateway to information on the internet.

So I guess as a consequence I'll try to stick around here (find instances for my interests), but also diversify my online presence a bit more. Maybe look at some specific forums and browse a few more websites directly

IrrationalNumber, in Welcome to the Fediverse! Hello everyone!
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I’m new here and am uninitiated: what is Calckey? Is it like Mastodon? I haven’t seen many talk about it online

ArtBear,
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This is sick, thanks for sharing.

Andonome, in Lemmy.ml API returning incorrect information for community list?

The upvotes on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml look like Microsoft's download ETA.

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I think it's just the server load messing with requests.

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