The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers

Gaming companies are coordinating with the FBI and Department of Homeland Security to root out so-called domestic violent extremist content, according to a new government report. Noting that mechanisms have been established with social media companies to police extremism, the report recommends that the national security agencies establish new and similar processes with the vast gaming industry.

The exact nature of the cooperation between federal agencies and video game companies, which has not been previously reported, is detailed in a new Government Accountability Office report. The report draws on interviews conducted with five gaming and social media companies including Roblox, an online gaming platform; Discord, a social media app commonly used by gamers; Reddit; as well as a game publisher and social media company that asked the GAO to remain anonymous.

The Anti-Defamation League has testified to Congress multiple times about extremists’ use of gaming platforms. In 2019, ADL’s then-senior vice president of international affairs, Sharon Nazarian, was asked by Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., if gaming platforms “are monitored” and if there’s “a way AI can be employed to identify those sorts of conversations.”

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Its times like this I wish I used matrix instead of discord. Even though my friends and I are not extremists you can definitely make us look like extremists if you took jokes out of context.

Maeve,

I just watched a doco on Jack Teixera/Luca, last night. Perhaps you should.

rockerface,

If your jokes look that bad out of context, you might need better jokes

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Literally these guys in a nutshell and they don’t even realize

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c706db78-6a9c-4d61-9629-a2d14492529f.jpeg

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

There are plenty of jokes that look bad if you strip away the intention and context. They aren’t bad or offensive jokes they just seem offensive if you take them out of context and present them in a different way.

For example this shane gills joke looks bad “That’s the thing about these countries, England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia. No Black people.” but when you add the next part it makes it funny.

“And I know what you’re thinking. No, you need Black people to keep the whites in check. The last thing you want is a whole island of whites that think they’re the coolest people on earth. A disaster. That’s how you end up with Conor McGregors walking around.The foreign whites are out of control.”

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

There are plenty of jokes that look bad if you strip away the intention and context. They aren’t bad or offensive jokes they just seem offensive if you take them out of context and present them in a different way.

Yes, and as humans we are quite able to understand that we should not immediately suspect anybody who says something without any context, assuming in the situation we know we are lacking the content.

Tell me, what makes you look more suspect to a federal agency:

  • The odd (frankly pretty bad, but then it’s by Shane Gills so that was expected) joke that lacking context could in theory be interpreted as a racial diss?
  • Encrypting and hiding all your chat traffic?
Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

This is exactly the problem. The fbi shouldn’t be able to snoop on you based off suspicion. I can encrypt every thing and be as edgy as I want and they still shouldn’t pull my discord message history because they have no reason to suspect I’ve committed a crime or am going to commit a crime.

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

That doesn’t seem funny at all to me, maybe it’s in the delivery.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

The clip of him saying it funnier but its not everyones cup of tea

ClockworkOtter,

That’s a shit joke. Racial essentialism just ain’t funny, and the context is kinda irrelevant.

rockerface,

…you do need to get better jokes

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

How would you know you have never heard a joke from me.

mister_monster,

Humorless people telling you to joke within the confines of their neurotic sensibilities. Best ignore them and carry on.

GBU_28,

What the fuck

mods_are_assholes,

It’s telling how you think that the context somehow makes this ‘better’.

It doesn’t, at all.

Jokes that are the product of a bigoted mind always carry the stink with it but people who align with said bigotry never notice because they are STEEPED in it constantly.

Just like when people grow up and leave 4chan and the realize in horror that what they thought is normal there, is VERY much not normal.

Which is why when edgelads try to repeat jokes they got off of forums in real life, it always comes off as creepy and flat.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Outside of extremely lefty places like lemmy jokes like that are acceptable and if you called that joke out as bigoted then people would consider you odd. It’s not even an edgy joke it just has a racial punchline.

mods_are_assholes,

I get the feeling that your only experiences outside of lemmy are 4chan and new.reddit if you think bigotry is that normalized.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Please never join the fbi. There won’t be a single gamer who isn’t an extremist in your eyes.

Also you’re delusional to assume my only internet experience is new reddit and 4chan. There is no one on this site who’s internet experience is new reddit and 4chan. That person doesn’t end up on the fediverse.

mods_are_assholes,

Shit son I’ve been a gamer so long my first controller only had one button.

You got zero induction going on in your thinkmeat but you assume you know everyone.

That person doesn’t end up on the fediverse.

As if they weren’t here day one. You’re blind if you don’t smell the reek of underbed cumsock in the bottom of most popular threads.

Or just hiding your power level.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I don’t care how long you’ve been a gamer its obvious you’re old and out of touch.

How could this new reddit/4chan user have been here day 1 if the fediverse dates back much longer than new reddit.

mods_are_assholes,

The interesting thing about insulting people for being old is that barring horrible accident, you’ll be there some day too being told by arrogant idiots how ‘out of touch’ you are.

Sure the fediverse may be ancient but Lemmy’s popularity hasn’t been until relatively recently, and there were already hard right lemmy users before the subreddit protests, which is what kicked off the biggest migration so far.

The more I read your words, the more they remind me of places on the internet that no one should visit. Your grammar and even thought processes are shaped by the places you socialize.

I wonder how far back in your post history I need to go before I find a reference to ‘genocide joe’ or some other basement troll nomenclature.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Thankfully all our jokes are dick jokes

TimLovesTech,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

So this isn’t about actual gamers, this about bad actors looking for chuds to recruit through games, which is not a new concept. It used to be chat rooms, and then forums, then social media, now games (as many have social features).

I mean the US military, among others, have been using gaming to recruit people already.

Maeve,

Jack Teixeira.

scottywh,

It’s been happening for over 20 years

Rezbit,
@Rezbit@lemmy.world avatar

Officially, the military does not recruit anyone under age 17. In this case, “recruit” means the formal process of signing a legally binding agreement to enlist. The military does, however, advertise to and interact directly with minors for the purposes of military recruitment.

Grooming. Non-sexual grooming. Just wonderful.

Drusas,

Are they pretending the JROTC doesn't exist? The US military absolutely targets minors under the age of seventeen for recruitment.

Cethin,

I think that’s the point, not ignoring it. They don’t have them literally sign up, but they do everything they legally can to capture them.

Aussiemandeus,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

I was in the Australian airforce cadets from 12 until 18 at which point i went to join the airforce but got am apprenticeship at the same time that paid more.

Many of my friends enlisted though.

Its certainly grooming, though

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I mean they show up to schools to tell kids about military careers and jrotc and stuff.

Maeve,

Thanks GW Bush!

masquenox,

The recruitment starts the minute they pressure kids into worshipping a piece of colored fabric.

masquenox,

I mean the US military, among others, have been using gaming to recruit people already.

Somehow I don’t think that’s the kind of extremism they’ll be clamping down on…

Archelon,

Hell, Steve Bannon got his start using WoW gold farms to find and target lonely young men.

wired.com/…/trumps-campaign-ceos-little-known-wor…

LaunchesKayaks,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

Someone tried recruiting my sister and a couple of her Special Olympics teammates into the Marines in Rec Room. I got on my sister’s mic and told the dude to fuck off and to stop preying on obviously vulnerable people. He was so pushy with his recruitment, that he was making my sister uncomfortable. She asked him to stop and he didn’t. After telling the dude off, I advised my sister and her teammates to try a different game for a bit. It was disgusting to see this dude try to get people with intellectual disabilities to literally throw their lives away for a country that’s constantly fucking them over.

deegeese,

If terrorists chat on Facebook, of course they’re on Roblox and every other site too.

Would be foolish not to monitor because it’s “only a game”.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/42e25123-b229-4f1b-aaea-1ea574db3bce.jpeg

simple,

They targeted GAMERS.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

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GBU_28,

WE

mods_are_assholes,

I hate everything in this subthread

GBU_28,

Ok

assassin_aragorn,

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