Where are all the good stealth games?

I’ve been trying to find one throughout the Steam summer sale and come up dry, and now I’m out of money until the 15th. Hopefully y’all can help me find a good one before the winter sale. Here’s a rundown of what I’ve tried so far and what I’ve liked and dislike about them:

Arkham series

Positive: I played through Arkham Knight a few years ago, and it made me fall in love with the genre, or at least what I wish it were. My ideal game is an endless series of well-built, challenging Arkham-style stealth puzzles I can just binge like sudoku with no brawling and no plot. I’ve now resigned myself to just trying to get through the rest of this series again before I spend more money. My wife also likes watching it.

Negative: I made the mistake of playing the last game first, and now the others feel disappointing and half-baked. The series got harder as it went, and Arkham Knight was still a little too easy, even on the hardest setting. Brawling scenes are monotonous and make my hands hurt. I’ve heard bad things about Gotham Knights, so I’m not about to spend that kind of money.

Alien: Isolation

Positive: Almost as close to what I want as Arkham, but in the opposite direction. Still should probably give it another chance.

Negative: Instead of padding it with combat, they padded it with tedious walking simulation. Also too dark. The glare on my living room screen makes it hard to play during the day.

XCOM series

Positive: XCOM 2 is another of my favorites. I’d like to know what recent turn based tactical games in this genre are good and emphasize stealth. And maybe local multi-player? Although those are kind of at cross purposes.

Negative: Once again made the mistake of starting at the end of the series with War of the Chosen, and now I have trouble getting into the earlier games. Chimera Squad was also very underwhelming.

Bioshock series

Positive: You know, I should probably just get back to Bioshock, come to think of it. Don’t know why I didn’t quite finish the first game.

Negative: I guess the only thing stopping me is that I’d want to finish the first one before getting to the sequels, and I’m not sure I still have my old save, and if so I’m dreading jumping back in at the end when I’m rusty. But no, I need to just finish Bioshock. I’d like to do a “good” playthrough, anyway. Are the sequels as stealth-oriented as the first one, though? I’ve heard you play as a Big Daddy in the second game, and that doesn’t sound stealthy.

Hitman series

Positive: So close. I got the pre-reboot Hitman bundle on sale, and the overall playstyle seems like exactly what I want in theory.

Negative: Yet so far. First off all, the earliest titles are just too clunky and old fashioned for me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a graphics snob, I can still enjoy an NES game. But that era between Doom and Portal or so, when they were fumbling around trying to figure out how to make a 3D game, I just don’t have the patience for that.

I tried Absolution and it was tantalizing but obviously flawed. I looked up some reviews to see if it got better or worse, and it turns out it definitely got worse.

It appears that what I’m looking for is the 2016 reboot. Problem is, IO Interactive doesn’t want my money. They took the first two games off of Steam, folded them into the third installment, and charged $69.99 for it. This makes me feel morally obligated to pirate these games and see how good the “Peacock” experience is. So now I have it torrented and I’m waiting for another ten+ hour window when no one else wants to use the computer and I can devote every single clock cycle of my long-suffering i5-2500k to decompressing Hitman, and hope it doesn’t have a random error eight hours in like it did last night.

Deathloop

Positive: Runs surprisingly well on my old rig, even with a video playing on the second monitor. The graphics on reduced settings still look way better than what I’m used to.

Negative: I had such high hopes for this based on the reviews, but it’s been my biggest disappointment so far. How is this even a stealth game? I try sneaking around, but then someone spots me, and instead of that being game over, I can just Doom my way through the rest of the encounter, and that works out more or less fine. Does it get better? I’m afraid to see for myself because I don’t want to put on so much playtime I can’t return it. My wife also hates it because it’s too violent. I was intrigued by Dishonored and Prey, but they’re from the same studio as this garbage, so now I’m leary of trying them.

Assassin’s Creed series

Positive: Seems too obvious not to include. I don’t think I’ve ever actually laid hands on a controller when it was playing, so I don’t want to be too hard on it.

Negative: Every time I’ve seen it played, it just strikes me as dumb. The Da Vinci Code shit is dumb, the puzzles are boring, the gameplay is gimmicky and dumbed down in all the worst possible ways. They’re obviously similar to Arkham and Hitman games, but I’ve never heard someone say they were better or harder, so I’ve never bothered giving them a chance.

Conclusion

I gather that designing good, challenging stealth puzzles is an extremely difficult feat of game design. So what developers tend to do is spend as much time as they can afford on stealth puzzles, and then fill in the rest with action, exploration, and plot when the deadline looms. But there’s so much out there, I’m sure there are hidden gems I can track down before winter.

Rentlar,

Monaco: What’s Yours is Mine is a really fun stealthy top-down 2D story game. It support 4P coop. There are several characters with very different abilities allowing for unique ways to tackle the map’s challenges. There is also a scenario editor to create custom challenges.

sculd,

I don’t understand why no one tries to make something akin to Metal Gear Solid. Everyone misses that.

jordanlund,

Splinter Cell was pretty popular. Remake is inbound:

toronto.ubisoft.com/games/splinter-cell-remake/

Triz3n,

Splinter Cell! 😎

beforan,
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Highly likely Hitman World of Assassination (the whole new trilogy starting with the 2016 game) will scratch the itch for you, but yeah I appreciate the weird shambles of trying to buy that in its various forms; actually the current state is the simplest: one price for the whole thing.

I guess you may want to wait for it to be on sale though, but I definitely rate it, it’s got many hours out of me.

Steam deck verified too, if that’s of interest.

CedarMadness,
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There is a demo, not sure what’s in it though. Back when they were separate games, the training missions of each game served as the demo level, and I think at some point the Paris mission of the first game was free.

beforan,
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Ah yeah, there’s a demo but I also don’t know what’s in it these days.

As for free levels, they cycle the free level monthly as per the current roadmap. I assume the demo lets you access the free level.

Looks like Bangkok is free until August 16th.

mrGarbanzo,

Check out the Sniper Elite series. The most recent games have a good, challenging, and engaging Stealth mechanic to them.

Blxter,
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One game I have yet to see mentioned here is “A plague tale” have not played the second but first was stealth oriented.

lustyargonian, (edited )

Second one is stealth based as well. In fact there are even bigger levels where you’ve to cross multiple checkpoints to finally be safe, and while you can try to kill your way out, you usually have ammo for 2 kills max while you’ve to cross 10-15 foes, so practically that isn’t an option.

Blxter,
@Blxter@lemmy.zip avatar

Good to hear game is definitely a game I plan on playing at some point.

AugustMetronome,

Plague Tale was fantastic, OP would probably really like them based on other games on the list.

Coelacanth,
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Lots of great suggestions already but I want to throw in another recommendation for Splinter Cell. The series lost it’s identity later on, but Chaos Theory still holds up in my opinion with some great levels.

conciselyverbose,

Metal Gear Solid 5 and Sniper Elite 4/5 are the gold standard IMO. Metal Gear has a (weird) story but you can ignore it. There's too much empty space because it's unfinished, but the engine is really good. Sniper Elite is everything I wanted MGS to be. Huge, densely populated maps, you can very easily get yourself swarmed by enemies if you're sloopy, and controlling noise is a huge part of your effectiveness.

Also look at immersive sims. A lot of those play well with stealth. Deus Ex, Dishonored, Prey all do stealth well enough, and have a lot of the design elements you're talking about regardless of play style.

morsebipbip,

Mandatory Dishonored 1 and 2 recommendation, but Prey is also very good

Grimlo9ic,
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+1 vote for the Dishonored games. If you want a quick showcase of what's possible in this title or the whole series, StealthGamerBR is probably one of the best people to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKyT19o-Nl8

worfamerryman,

Maybe the real stealth has been finding the stealth games .

irongamer,
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It’s stealth all the way down.

F4stL4ne,
@F4stL4ne@programming.dev avatar

The Dark Mod of course!

JanoRis,

A lot of the games you tried are on gamepass, including hitman world of assassination.
There are some others aswell, like Aragami 2, sniper elite and plague tale.Might be worth just trying gamepass for 10€ for a month or to see if you can buy a trial key for cheap somewhere, to test the games.

Another game I can recommend but it is a bit different genre is Outlast:Trials. It is a stealth game but if you fail you have to escape and hide. Though this game is pretty explicit with nudity, violence and gore

ryven,
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Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Mankind Divided can be played as stealth games, and I really liked them. Note that they aren’t “pure” stealth games, there are some encounters where you cannot avoid fighting.

Also DE:MD kind of ends in the middle, so if you are a story player you will be frustrated to know that there seem to be no plans for the next sequel.

darkkite,

you should be able to do the entirety of MD including the final boss with stealth or bypassing it entirely

ryven,
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Oh thank you, I could not remember what exactly was in each game. The bosses I’m thinking of must have been in HR then.

beforan,
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Yeah HR had unavoidable combat bosses in its original release. The Director’s Cut modded them all to allow for dealing with them by alternative means, such as hacking, robot/turret control and such. But because they weren’t originally designed that way it’s not the most organic, and you can’t pure stealth bypass them like the original Deus Ex.

HighPriestOfALowCult,

DE:MD was great, I really hoped for them to finish the story. With all the horse-trading of the companies and IP, who knows if we’ll ever see one.

hootener,

This is going to sound snobby, but until you’ve played metal gear I don’t think you’ve experienced the pinnacle of stealth. That series basically defined (access arguably perfected) the third person stealth action genre.

If you don’t want to play them all, I highly recommend metal gear solid 3 and V. But the “demo” ground zeroes game is a great way to get a feel for the series in a more contained experience

Runner ups in my mind that others mentioned:

  • Splinter cell
  • Thief
  • Deus ex (you can choose stealth in this game but it isn’t specifically a stealth game imo)
  • Dishonored (superb)
  • Prey (essentially dishonored meets system shock)

You gotta go grab some metal gear, though. Oh how I wish I could experience those games for the first time again.

irongamer,
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Thief Deus ex (you can choose stealth in this game but it isn’t specifically a stealth game imo) Dishonored (superb)

Was surprised to not find these games in the main list. Thief and Deus Ex (I play it stealthy as much as possible) have been my go to stealth games. And no matter how you try to play Skyrim it always ends with stealth archer. 😅

nanometre,

I fucking love those games to death, Thief was so fucking dark and gritty when it first came out and I was so scared when the guards walked past me as I was hiding in the shadows after water arrowing a torch, lol.

And Deus Ex I with it’s multiple storylines, choice making and takes on philosophy was mind blowing.

However, they’re easy to cheese by modern standards which might be to their detriment when it comes to new players. You can easily blackjack your way through Thief I.

Thief III: Deadly Shadows probably holds up the best gameplay wise, though Thief II has the best storyline imo.

Deus Ex I also has some very unfortunate voice acting choices (incl. white people putting on Asian sounding accents), which I, in the 90s, was ignorant about, but now as an adult it’s a cringy struggle to listen to, tbh.

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