Where are all the good stealth games?

I’ve been trying to find one throughout the Steam summer sale and come up dry, and now I’m out of money until the 15th. Hopefully y’all can help me find a good one before the winter sale. Here’s a rundown of what I’ve tried so far and what I’ve liked and dislike about them:

Arkham series

Positive: I played through Arkham Knight a few years ago, and it made me fall in love with the genre, or at least what I wish it were. My ideal game is an endless series of well-built, challenging Arkham-style stealth puzzles I can just binge like sudoku with no brawling and no plot. I’ve now resigned myself to just trying to get through the rest of this series again before I spend more money. My wife also likes watching it.

Negative: I made the mistake of playing the last game first, and now the others feel disappointing and half-baked. The series got harder as it went, and Arkham Knight was still a little too easy, even on the hardest setting. Brawling scenes are monotonous and make my hands hurt. I’ve heard bad things about Gotham Knights, so I’m not about to spend that kind of money.

Alien: Isolation

Positive: Almost as close to what I want as Arkham, but in the opposite direction. Still should probably give it another chance.

Negative: Instead of padding it with combat, they padded it with tedious walking simulation. Also too dark. The glare on my living room screen makes it hard to play during the day.

XCOM series

Positive: XCOM 2 is another of my favorites. I’d like to know what recent turn based tactical games in this genre are good and emphasize stealth. And maybe local multi-player? Although those are kind of at cross purposes.

Negative: Once again made the mistake of starting at the end of the series with War of the Chosen, and now I have trouble getting into the earlier games. Chimera Squad was also very underwhelming.

Bioshock series

Positive: You know, I should probably just get back to Bioshock, come to think of it. Don’t know why I didn’t quite finish the first game.

Negative: I guess the only thing stopping me is that I’d want to finish the first one before getting to the sequels, and I’m not sure I still have my old save, and if so I’m dreading jumping back in at the end when I’m rusty. But no, I need to just finish Bioshock. I’d like to do a “good” playthrough, anyway. Are the sequels as stealth-oriented as the first one, though? I’ve heard you play as a Big Daddy in the second game, and that doesn’t sound stealthy.

Hitman series

Positive: So close. I got the pre-reboot Hitman bundle on sale, and the overall playstyle seems like exactly what I want in theory.

Negative: Yet so far. First off all, the earliest titles are just too clunky and old fashioned for me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a graphics snob, I can still enjoy an NES game. But that era between Doom and Portal or so, when they were fumbling around trying to figure out how to make a 3D game, I just don’t have the patience for that.

I tried Absolution and it was tantalizing but obviously flawed. I looked up some reviews to see if it got better or worse, and it turns out it definitely got worse.

It appears that what I’m looking for is the 2016 reboot. Problem is, IO Interactive doesn’t want my money. They took the first two games off of Steam, folded them into the third installment, and charged $69.99 for it. This makes me feel morally obligated to pirate these games and see how good the “Peacock” experience is. So now I have it torrented and I’m waiting for another ten+ hour window when no one else wants to use the computer and I can devote every single clock cycle of my long-suffering i5-2500k to decompressing Hitman, and hope it doesn’t have a random error eight hours in like it did last night.

Deathloop

Positive: Runs surprisingly well on my old rig, even with a video playing on the second monitor. The graphics on reduced settings still look way better than what I’m used to.

Negative: I had such high hopes for this based on the reviews, but it’s been my biggest disappointment so far. How is this even a stealth game? I try sneaking around, but then someone spots me, and instead of that being game over, I can just Doom my way through the rest of the encounter, and that works out more or less fine. Does it get better? I’m afraid to see for myself because I don’t want to put on so much playtime I can’t return it. My wife also hates it because it’s too violent. I was intrigued by Dishonored and Prey, but they’re from the same studio as this garbage, so now I’m leary of trying them.

Assassin’s Creed series

Positive: Seems too obvious not to include. I don’t think I’ve ever actually laid hands on a controller when it was playing, so I don’t want to be too hard on it.

Negative: Every time I’ve seen it played, it just strikes me as dumb. The Da Vinci Code shit is dumb, the puzzles are boring, the gameplay is gimmicky and dumbed down in all the worst possible ways. They’re obviously similar to Arkham and Hitman games, but I’ve never heard someone say they were better or harder, so I’ve never bothered giving them a chance.

Conclusion

I gather that designing good, challenging stealth puzzles is an extremely difficult feat of game design. So what developers tend to do is spend as much time as they can afford on stealth puzzles, and then fill in the rest with action, exploration, and plot when the deadline looms. But there’s so much out there, I’m sure there are hidden gems I can track down before winter.

bermuda, (edited )

Very disappointed nobody here has mentioned Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. The only MGS game on PC (so far) without emulation and definitely one of the most fun stealth games I’ve ever played. It is pretty hardcore, but it’s also got a lot of sandbox elements meaning you can complete every mission in a multitude of ways. Don’t like sneaking up on dudes? Maybe try sniping. Don’t want to infiltrate a literal prison? If you’re quick about it and smart about it you can intercept the prisoner’s convoy before he gets there. The buddy system also means you don’t have to keep track of every little thing and can let your buddy do at least a little bit of the mission for you. The story is regrettably pretty batshit insane and kind of hard to understand, which is kind of normal for Kojima, but the gameplay is top-tier.

It appears that what I’m looking for is the 2016 reboot. Problem is, IO Interactive doesn’t want my money. They took the first two games off of Steam, folded them into the third installment, and charged $69.99 for it. This makes me feel morally obligated to pirate these games and see how good the “Peacock” experience is. So now I have it torrented and I’m waiting for another ten+ hour window when no one else wants to use the computer and I can devote every single clock cycle of my long-suffering i5-2500k to decompressing Hitman, and hope it doesn’t have a random error eight hours in like it did last night.

Having played all three IOI games, this is actually not as bad as you’re making it seem. Beforehand, if you wanted all three games it was probably around $120 considering the first two were heavily discounted after a couple of years. The Steam bundle was cheaper, but what 90% of customers ended up doing was buying Hitman 3 and then buying the levels from the previous two hitman games and playing those that way. Hitman 3 has far better graphics, controls, UI… you name it and they improved on it. Plus, each game is only between 5 and 7 levels long and is around 7 hours to beat.

So the developers saw that basically nobody was buying the first two games and said, well, here’s all three games in one and kept the price basically the same as it was before. I would understand buying it and then being disappointed that you spent $70 on 12 more levels you won’t play, but at the same time I think it makes far more logical sense to just treat it as one game.

Imagine my disappointment when I bought the first Hitman back in 2016 and discovered it was an episodic 5 level game for $60 fucking dollars. I think $70 for like 18 levels is a pretty damn good discount.

derskusmacher,

Adding on to this I heartily recommend MGS V. It is the culmination of the MGS formula in a mostly open world. While I love Kojima's bullshit, the previous MGS games had deep mechanics that you rarely got to play with because most the games were movies with an occasional game.

The story is kind of all over the place but the gameplay more then makes up for for it.

HiT3k,

MGS1 is available on GOG, but it’s definitely got that early 3D vibe that OP doesn’t seem to like. I think it’s aged pretty well, considering it’s a PS1 title.

phynite,

I recently played through all three Thief games. Start with Thief: The Dark Project, then Thief 2: The Metal Age. Finally, Thief: Deadly Shadows is a bit controversial but i still think its worth a playthrough. Don’t bother with Thief (2014). They are old but IMHO some of the best stealth games made to this day. If you check them out, highly recommend looking up some mods. Tfix for the first game I think, and there are even some HD mods if old graphics bother you.

Also, I’ve never played them but heard the Splinter Cell games are fantastic stealth games. Might be worth a look.

Skeptic043,
Skeptic043 avatar

To follow up on what was said above, Thief: Gold/The Dark Project and Thief 2: The Metal Age are easily two of the best stealth games out there, especially with all the work fans have done to keep the games playable and fantastic on modern hardware. Between the phenomenal level design, a unique and pretty engaging story, and all around fun game play offering tons of ways to approach situations, they're always worth a recommend from me for at least a single playthrough, easily netting 15-30 hours of game time per game. The wide variance in time spent with each is partially due to the freedom you have, but also since each difficulty step up changes your objectives for each mission, giving you further reasons to explore and have fun with the world.

Thief: Deadly Shadows is harder to recommend due to it being built with consoles in mind, but once again, with some fan patches it becomes a much better experience and can definitely be worth the time, particularly when they're all on sale for so cheap. Each of them is currently just under $1 on steam, one of the best deals you can get.

Coming from someone who bought Thief 2014 at launch (and enjoyed it), I'd recommend a skip on that one. It's not a bad game by any means, but it doesn't feel like it's nearly as good as the original 3 for a variety of reasons.

Splinter Cell also are fantastic games in the stealth genre, but I'm not familiar enough with them to speak at length on them like the Thief series.

PanaX,

Yeah, you should reconsider Dishonored and Prey. Especially at how cheap they are on sale.

CoderKat,

Dishonored was the first thing that came to mind when I read the title, too. OP, if you haven’t played it, check it out!

As for others…

  1. Skyrim and Fallout aren’t exactly deep stealth games, but stealth is hands down the most popular and arguably most fun way to play. Sneaky archer is a freaking meme.
  2. Far Cry games all favour stealth as well. While you’re totally allowed to go in guns a blazing and it’s frankly more effective sometimes, the game does reward stealth and is clearly designed with it in mind. Silencers are magic, you can distract enemies, can lure wildlife to attack, smoke bombs, knife combos, “death from above”, etc.
  3. The Metro series isn’t entirely stealth, but a lot of human enemy sections are meant to be done with stealth and I recall it being actually very difficult if you’re not stealthy (you die fast). I also recall the stealth feeling more realistic in terms of detection time. Finally, there’s something extra fun about being stealthy in a very dark post apocalyptic subway tunnel. Much better atmosphere for it!

As a final side note, the way OP described assassin’s Creed sounds like the older games. They might like some of the “middle” games like Unity more. The games that came just before Origins (Origins and later are very fun games, but the stealth is no longer the focus).

ZeroEchoplex,

I also thought of Dishonered first when I read the title. Love how you’re given the flexibility to complete each level however you feel like playing.

Resolved3874,

I’m pretty sure it’s possible to completely beat the game without killing a single NPC as well.

bermuda,

Seconding Far Cry, specifically 3 through 5. I haven’t played 6 yet so I can’t comment on it, but 3, 4, and 5 (as well as new dawn) are all pretty much built for stealth. You can always go guns-blazing but you’re punished a lot more for it, and silently killing all the guards is incredibly rewarding both in terms of mentality and gameplay-wise.

CharlesReed,
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I don't quite remember how I played Metro 2033, but I do know that I played so much with Metro Last Light to get that stupid 'kill no humans' achievement that whenever I play it now I can practically zoom through most areas with stealth. Same way with Dishonored. Both great games, I love revisiting them from time to time.

NightOwl,

With dishonored I wanted to be the ultimate ninja that leave no trace and had a lot of fun doing a clean hands ghost run. So challenging though, since I didn’t know if I had been detected until the end of each stage when they show you your performance.

Karzyn,

I disliked Dishonored because the game tells you not to kill too many people or bad things will happen and then proceeds to make most of the items and abilities for killing people. You can kill some people, but it’s not clear exactly how many each level. I wasn’t really interested in spending tens of hours playing a game only to be told that I was a bad person who gets the bad ending. As a result I kept killing to a minimum and missed out on or barely used a huge portion of the items and abilities. Seemed like questionable game design.

Prey was great though. Not sure if I’d call it a stealth game, however.

Coelacanth,
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I love Dishonored, but I agree that it’s unfortunate more fun abilities aren’t compatible with Low Chaos.

It makes the High Chaos second playthrough more satisfying though, when you can finally unleash the whole arsenal.

neshura,

Dishonored 2 remedies that problem significantly, playing non-Lethal is a lot more fun there than in the first game.

morsebipbip,

The game doesn’t really want you to spare enemies. It’s just that there are 3 different ways to play the game and 3 different flavors of the story : low, mid and high chaos. I think you should feel free to massacre everyone, and then maybe start over a new game and try lower chaos !

ursakhiin,

I felt like this was the intention. Play through it having fun learning the mechanics and then follow up with a replay to challenge yourself.

ReepusVanguard,
@ReepusVanguard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Metal gear? Metal gear.

Leilys,

I enjoy top down stealth games, and haven’t seen this game get discussed much, but it was pretty fun - Serial Cleaner (and sequel, Serial CleanerS)

You play a guy who cleans up murder scenes for an unknown serial killer, all the while evading guards and other security measures. It’s a pretty fun experience, and I do recommend giving it a go if that’s your kind of thing.

There’s also the Marvelous Miss Take, a game where you play a woman on a mission to perform a series of heists. Also a top down stealth game, you get to use some gadgets to distract guards while you sneak past and to your goal.

Both are older indie games, but enjoyable for at least one playthrough.

AssA,

As far as I can see you have named not one actual stealth game. Try Styx master of shadows for example. Or kaedwen. Splinter cell games. Even Ghost recon Wildlands can be a great stealth game.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

‘Metro 2033 Redux’ and ‘Metro: Last Light Redux’ are my favorite stealth games.

Good atmosphere and setting.

SkepticElliptic,

Untitled goose game

hascat,

Stealth was necessary in the early chapters of Death Stranding. As you get access to better equipment it becomes less necessary, but the early game was definitely the most stressful stealth experience I think I’ve had in gaming.

tombuben,

I really enjoyed the BT stealth sections, but the sections with MULEs or Terrorists never really felt that stealth wast the best approach there, mainly because of the level design just being so open.

Beegzoidberg,

I need to add to the dishonored pile here. Deathloop is a much more doom-able game. Dishonored can be played in a fast way, but you can play the entire game with killing anyone, or being seen by anyone, or both. I highly recommend it, they scratch the itch.

neshura,

Adding onto that, Dishonored 2 feels way more fun when playing non-lethal. Dishonored 1 kind of handicaps you if you decide not to kill enemies, whereas Dishonored 2 gives you a few more Options.

Both are incredible games though, definitely worth playing.

FlashMobOfOne,
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Here are a few suggestions. Cheap, great stealth and action, and quite fun.

Dishonored 1 and 2 (and their expansions), Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun, The Plague Tale series, and Mark of the Ninja

RouxFou,
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Bit or an oddball suggestion, but you might want to give Metro 2033 a try. It takes a bit, but you can eventually obtain a stealth suit that has a light meter akin to Thief, and you have a pneumatic rifle that shoots silently. Spent so much time skulking through levels trying not to alert anyone the entire time, had so much fun.

lukini,
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I wouldn’t even say the first BioShock is stealth-oriented, much less the rest of the series. There are some areas where it benefits you to be stealthy, but the game can easily be played going head-on into most enemies with good plasmid use. I’d argue it’s more fun that way, too.

MrSluagh,

I’ve started playing Bioshock again, and I now realize that. I just remembered it fondly as a very tactical, lean-back shooter. When I’m being expedient, the natural approach is to tag a splicer and then retreat toward my hacked turrets. Deathloop is the opposite. It’s billed as a stealth game, yet I find it easier to maintain a lean-back playstyle in Doom 2016.

curiosityLynx,

Volume is an indie stealth game I’ve quite enjoyed. In addition to the campaign it has a level creator, if you want to try player-made levels.

jordanlund,

Plan is to re-make Splinter Cell, but I haven’t heard any dates yet. :(

toronto.ubisoft.com/games/splinter-cell-remake/

zen404,

God I would give so much to experience Splinter Cell 3’s multiplayer again. It was perfect. An improvement upon the already excellent MP of Pandora Tomorrow, but still within the spirit of the game.

And then they fucked it up trying to make it more like COD or something.

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