Galletasalada,

Soon I hope people suggest driving an older car without these telemetry features to improve your security posture. Even you are using all and secure apps and stuff and everything encrypted with a dumb phone, etc. that you don't keep on you to be tracked you could still be thwarted by vehicle and targeted on a very granular level unless you're driving something old. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/06/cars-collect-extensive-personal-data-on-drivers-study-warns

SecurityWriter,

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  • Galletasalada,

    @SecurityWriter You seem to be assuming that I’m not writing this from a mastodon server that is actively monitored by the FBI. Your hilarious overkill is many peoples’ reality if they are targeted by state actors.

    SecurityWriter,

    @Galletasalada Well as one of those people, I can’t just not buy a new car.

    Instead, we need the community to put pressure on regulators and legislators, and the experts and tinkerers to come together to find solutions and modifications to help combat it.

    If I’m targeting you and I want to track your car, hear your conversations in it, or otherwise monitor your behaviour. I really don’t need a complicated mess of systems fitted to the car to do so.

    Galletasalada,

    @SecurityWriter It’s true that it’s a lot easier to track people with other methods than automotive telemetry. I am very aware of that. I don’t know why people replying assume that I don’t know that it would be a far-fetched mode of attack. It is a possible one though, just like it is possible to have your keystrokes read from a compromised microphone, but going to all that trouble doesn’t make a lot of sense if one can just get a keylogger on the system, for most targets. I would like it to be acknowledged that it is one of those far-fetched methods of attack, because most people don’t think of their cars as something that can possibly collect such information. Thus it is useful in security communication to acknowledge the possibility without alarming people, if a fine balance can be struck. I guess those such as myself who drive old POSs & can’t afford new cars will have an advantage somewhat in terms of paranoiac measures, if it comes to that.

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