Jerboa app and Lemmy 0.18

The 0.18 version of Lemmy was announced. This will solve many issues.

But we can't upgrade yet because the captcha was removed, and captcha relied on Websockets, which are removed in 0.18 so despite the devs agreeing on my request to add captcha back, this will not be until 0.18.1. Without captcha we will be overrun by bots.

Hopefully this 0.18.1 will be released soon, because another issue is that the newest version of the Jerboa app won't work with servers older than 0.18. So if you're on Lemmy.world, please (temporarily) use another app or the web version.

MobBarley700,
@MobBarley700@lemmy.world avatar

beehaw only seems to support 0.17.4 rn

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Beehaw don't support Lemmy.World and other instances that dare to allow anyone to set up an account. They are anti-fediverse.

Anticorp,

I have yet to find another app that is consistently reliable and feature rich. Should we just sign up for a different instance until lemmy.world is upgraded?

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

@ruud: 0.18.1-rc1 is out with captchas: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/releases/tag/0.18.1-rc.1

Chocrates,

Captcha has been merged https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3289#issuecomment-1609087178 And 0.18.1 RC1 has been tagged https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/releases/tag/0.18.1-rc.1

donut4ever,

I still can't log into Lemmy through Jerboa. Still complains about the 0.17 server being too low

martyc3,

Same issue. I switched to Connect for Lemmy which seems fine so far.

donut4ever,

Yup. Liftoff is coming along nicely, too. They're releasing updates rapidly. Best so far is connect

LimitedWard,

I know these are early-adopter pain points, but I think if Lemmy is really gonna take off, the devs need to get serious about backward compatibility and ensuring backend upgrades don't completely break major instances/clients. IMO switching from websocket to HTTP should have been treated as a breaking change with a new major version release and a more controlled rollout period for this exact reason.

barsoap,

Quoth semver 2.0.0:

Major version zero (0.y.z) is for initial development. Anything MAY change at any time. The public API SHOULD NOT be considered stable.

"Semver proper" only starts at version 1.0.0:

Version 1.0.0 defines the public API. The way in which the version number is incremented after this release is dependent on this public API and how it changes.

impulse,

This is important. Many people (and news outlets for that matter) consider Lemmy a product, when it really is very much an on-going early stage development effort.

It's amazing how well everything works already, but nothing should be considered stable at this point.

Richie,

Is this why there's still a ton of slowness on Lemmy despite the slowness said to be resolved? Because I still can't efficiently use Lemmy, if I'm being honest.

Xanthrax,
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

That was an issue with reddit to. If there's not enough content/ activity it breaks top post sorting for short periods of time.

I used to follow a lot of niche communities on reddit and that was always an issue. I'd have to put it at a year, month/ day wouldn't work.

Richie,

Oh, I never knew that about Reddit. That said, it's happening for communities on Lemmy that are populated/active, like this one for example. Lemmyworld shows as a blank community when I sort by Top Day.

Xanthrax,
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

I'm saying waaaaay more active, but I've never been able to find the threshold.

solrize,

Frequently getting "404: FetchError: invalid json response body at http://lemmy:8536/api/v3/site" when trying to visit posts here, maybe due to some backend overload. I guess you know about this but mentioning because I didn't notice other posts about it.

CosmicGrizzly,

Thank you for posting this explanation.

Allan8795,
@Allan8795@lemmy.world avatar

Should've read this first. I was getting that instance outdated popup on jerboa app, thought a logout and re-login would resolve it. Now I can't login, my mistake..

V4uban,

You can use this fork: https://lemmy.ml/post/1498929

solrize,

Use the forks, Luke :)

Allan8795,
@Allan8795@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks

PoodleDoodle,
@PoodleDoodle@lemmy.world avatar

https://media.tenor.com/3t8n3nxRWIgAAAAM/among-us.gif <a href=""></a>https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d46f64e0-dd0a-4a08-b9a6-962fd4511269.mp4

V4uban,

https://lemmy.ml/post/1498929

DishonestBirb,

Thunder, which is on the IzzyOnDroid F-Droid repo is a decent Lemmy Android app that plays well with lemmy.world currently. It also supposedly has an iOS version.

Presi300,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

Why was captcha even removed in the 1sr place?

u_1f914, (edited )

Captchas depended on websockets which were removed.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200#issuecomment-1600505757

"Note that captcha uuids and answers were stored in-memory in the websocket server which is removed now, so its necessary to add a new database table for captchas."

solrize,

No need for a database table, just encrypt the solution and encode it in the filename.

brianorca,

You don't want to provide any more info to the client that you need to. Otherwise someone can write a robot that decrypts that filename and breaks the captcha.

solrize, (edited )

duplicate post deleted

solrize,

Encrypted means encrypted with real cryptography, using a secret key known only to the server. If a random robot can break that, we are all in trouble. Almost all internet security depends on basically similar cryptography.

bizzacore,
@bizzacore@lemmy.world avatar

Jerboa just quit when I tried using it on Android - Pixel 5 w/Android 12. Wouldn't open at all, so I quit on it. Trying out Summit now

Noedel,

I just got liftoff and it slaps

bizzacore,
@bizzacore@lemmy.world avatar

I'm def gonna try it out, thank you!

Calcium5332,

Also have that problem. V0.0.34 crashes, and V0.0.35 doesn't work with Lemmy.world, so I had to switch to Liftoff

bizzacore,
@bizzacore@lemmy.world avatar

Liftoff is awesome! So far, I really love that app

figaro,

Ok so guys, I appreciate the devs of Jerboa for doing what they do, but I am absolutely switching to another app immediately when something else decent shows up.

visualfeast,

How does it compare to wefwef.app ? I’ve been using it a couple of days and it’s been pretty sweet so far. Found it on r/apolloapp.

figaro,

I just checked this out. Until a better native app is created, I feel like this is by far the best choice for using the site on mobile. Good find 👍

sideone,
@sideone@lemmy.world avatar

wefwef.app

This looks really nice, but doesn't look like it has any mod tools.

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre,

Yep, I'll be sticking to Jerboa until Infinity for Lemmy is a thing.

br3d,

I’m trying them all. As of today, Connect for Lemmy seems to be working the best

Duchess,

thanks for the rec! connect is working great for me

phillycodehound,
@phillycodehound@lemmy.world avatar

Connect for Lemmy is the best thus far.

AnonLordo, (edited )

Connect is great, but take a look at Liftoff. It's even better. I think we'll see better apps than reddit ever had soon.

Edit: Releases since it' not on F-Droid or Playstore yet.

Edit: fixed link to releases.

donut4ever,

liftoff is good, but still doesn't have font size adjustment. I hope it's coming soon. I'm sticking to connect for Lemmy. thanks for bringing liftoff up, I'm going to follow it.

notExactlyI20,
@notExactlyI20@lemmy.world avatar

Been using it for a while now. Feels great for being a WIP app but there are still some hiccups (can't suscribe to communities that aren't on the same instance as my account as an example). Prob will use both Jerboa and Liftoff

florge,

Btw you're releases link goes to the 0.9.6 release which is still lemmynade

AnonLordo,

Thx, fixed.

riotrick,

Liftoff has no way to change font size yet. I find the text too small for easy reading. Trying all the apps at moment. Jerboa is fine, but currently cannot login until lemmy.world is updated. Connect seems to work ok. Basically they are all still a work in progress, but usable.

florge,

Really liking the look of summit, but it's lacking a lot of features still.

peetabix,
@peetabix@lemmy.world avatar

Sync for Lemmy can't come quick enough

Avigrace,

Thunder on Android is the best of all the ones I've tried, Adaptive Icon and Material You support so feels very modern. It's a newer app but has a nice clean layout and development is happening fast.

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