looking for half-stable Linux distro

Hello, i am currently looking for a Linux distribution with these criteria:

-it should be more or less stable, comparable to Ubuntu with or without LTS // -it should not be related to IBM to any way (so no fedora/redhat) // -it should not feature snaps (no Ubuntu or KDE neon) // -KDE plasma should be installable manually (best case even installed by default) // -no DIY Distros //

I’ve been thinking about using an immutable distro, but if anyone can recommend something to me, I’d be very grateful //

Edit: I’m sorry for the bad formatting, for some reason it doesn’t register spaces

BCsven,

OpenSUSE. snapshots build in. nVidia hosts its own Leap or Tumbleweed GPU repo you can add for trouble fee GPU use. GUI for almoat all config tasks you might normally do at the CLI. Stable…and rollbacks ahould you make a mistake

StrangeAstronomer,

You can’t avoid IBM/RedHat - they contribute to the kernel and many, many other parts of Linux eg systemd. I have no idea what you mean by DIY distros, what a peculiar adjective in this context. Linux itself is DIY. Life is DIY.

That said, voidlinux is an independent distro without systemd or snaps based on runit for init and xbps for package management. It’s also a STABLE rolling release.

pixelscript,

I have no idea what you mean by DIY distros, what a peculiar adjective in this context. Linux itself is DIY. Life is DIY.

Pretty sure what they meant is no distros where you have to manually curate and possibly even build every sodding package, like Linux From Scratch, Gentoo, and maybe to an extent Arch. I presume they want a disto that flashes to a live USB, walks through a wizard, and boots up out of the box fully functional in minutes, no fuss required.

yianiris,
@yianiris@kafeneio.social avatar

> You can’t avoid IBM/RedHat

Let's just leave it at that, we can't avoid code published by them, it is everywhere. Both of those are subject and clear collaborators with agencies of the state that protects their existence.

It is 100s of times better than MS, ok, yes, it is. Still, "we" have a long way to go, away from "them".

@StrangeAstronomer @Luffy879

theshatterstone54,

There are only 3 options I can immediately think of, for you:

Debian

OpenSUSE (Leap)

Slackware

They are ordered from most to least likely to recommend for your criteria i.e I recommend Debian, alternatively Leap, and if you don’t like either you can try Slackware, but Slackware is closer to a DIY distro.

Pantherina,

Opensuse Slowroll is a way better approach than Leap. Same for Debian, I would use Kubuntu and desnap it or something, as updates every 2 years is simply outdated quickly.

KDE doesnt work well with “stable” Distros.

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

As a long term slackware aficionado, I agree that it meets the criteria. But it also is significantly different from other distros in enough ways that you may find yourself relearning things you took for granted. And that is off-putting for a lot of users.

theshatterstone54,

that is offputting for a lot of users.

I wanted to like Slackware, I really did, but you’re right. It is significantly different and not necessarily in a good way (I’m not bashing Slackware, I’m just saying that Slackware is quite archaic in the way it does things, and that’s not always the best way of doing things).

aairey,

I read this as:
Looking for a Half-Life Linux distro

LinuxMint21,
@LinuxMint21@lemmy.kde.social avatar

i would use that

Shareni,

Gets abandoned before the third major version

downhomechunk,
@downhomechunk@midwest.social avatar

Omg you just described slackware. Join us!

Guenther_Amanita,

I would recommend Fedora Kinoite.
Yes, you said no RedHat stuff, but Fedora is 100% community run.

Especially when you use the Kinoite-build from universal-blue.org, everything should work ootb and is very reliable, while also being semi-stable in terms of update frequency

Pantherina, (edited )

Second that. Ublue kinoite-main for a painless experience.

Personally I would even recommend Secureblue kinoite-userns but only if you have no problems building Firefox yourself, using Chromium, using Brave, or maybe using the Flathub official Firefox.

qaz,

Your link to Secureblue is invalid, it points to subdomain of the user’s Lemmy instance.

Pantherina,

Lemmy…

Sarcasmo220,

An immutable distro with a heavily customized KDE desktop is Nitrux. Check it out at nxos.org

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Debian as others are saying is a great choice

But I’ll still shill arch, I’ve literally never encountered a problem with it other than my first time installing manually being a learning experience. Not sure if it counts as a DIY distro bc you can definitely install with a script

Pantherina,

If you use arch, you should do the “automatic snapshots” thing with BTRFS, grub and pacman hooks. That is important to have a version to rollback to, as its Arch.

Andy,
@Andy@programming.dev avatar
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GlenTheFrog,
@GlenTheFrog@lemmy.ml avatar

OpenSuse seems like it would meet your needs. OpenSuse Kalpa might be one to look into since it’s immutable and features KDE Plasma

sibachian,
@sibachian@lemmy.ml avatar

Linux Mint is hands down the most stable linux distro out there and has been for years. zero tinkering needed. everything just runs no questions asked.

My only grief with Mint is the most recent update where they changed the software centee and now it’s slowed to a crawl. Why they would do this is anyones guess.

I’m recommending MX until such time that Mint sort their crap out - unfortunately I doubt they will, seeing as this change of software center was to resolve some other issues they (but not is end users) though they had.

MX is basically debian but with a lot of improvements. Sure it might have a bit of a learning curve for those primarily used to Ubuntu based systems, but it beats running any of the other Ubuntu distros by miles since they all struggle with the crap Ubuntu puts on top of Debian.

Manjaro is another great option if you don’t want to deal with debian based stuff, and KDE is the default DE with most stuff under reasonable control. You can also use all the Arch resources if you ever run into trouble so it’s a lot less of a headache than what I’ve experienced running OpenSUSE (i want to love OpenSUSE but I just can’t).

Pantherina,

Linux mint is just Ubuntu with opinionated Ubuntu crap removed. Is there Linux Mint with KDE?

sibachian,
@sibachian@lemmy.ml avatar

not at all. mint offers a bunch of features ‘exclusive’ to mint as an integration with their system. of course it’s all open source and you could install it on any other system. but the key important factor with mint is that everything ‘just works’ with a fresh install, no customization necessary - which is something that can’t be said about any other distro, including Ubuntu. it is the only distro i recommend for non-pc users as there is no chance they will brick it.

regardless, KDE is just a DE. you won’t get the same mint experience of course, since it isn’t officially supported (and indeed, only cinnamon offers the complete mint experience), but installing KDE on mint is easy enough if you insist on using it.

possiblylinux127,

Debian? Just make sure you use backports, containers or flatpak if you want newer software.

LoveSausage,

Same recommendation as usual from me :) pepparmint OS , Debian base extra on top

Sina,

If Debian is too DIY for you, then you could try LMDE with the BTRFS filesystem and Timeshift for maximum safety and far less DIY.

cerement,
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  • yet another vote for Debian
  • or if you’re going immutable (“atomic” is a better name) then wait for Vanilla OS’s Orchid to be released (currently in Beta) – a little more user-friendly than NixOS (although that will depend on the documentation)
Pantherina,

VanillaOS is unstable as hell. Also their atomic model is not image-based but uses a regular package manager underneath. This makes it way less controlled, transparent and resettable than Fedoras model.

I think Opensuses is similar, they also dont use images I think.

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