I dislike wayland

Quite the unpopular opinion, but I just wanted to post this to show the silent majority that we still exist. We have reached a point where voicing criticism against wayland is treated like the worst thing ever and leads you to being censored and what not. The red hat funded multi year long shill campaign has proven to be quite successful. Now do the same for immutable distros and every new buzzword that restricts your ability to make changes to your system and the long term plan of completely sabotaging the linux desktop will finally come true. That is all.

Scio,
Scio avatar

Based

Hyperreality,

I sounds like you don't actually dislike wayland, but fanboys and toxicity. TBH the linux community is full of that kind of crap.

Imagine if we were all as weird about toasters, having arguments about how toaster brand X was so much better than toaster brand Y.

But luckily people don't give much of a shit about toasters, as long as they work.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
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I join the anti-fanboy club. I hate that I can't mention the problems it causes me without them interpreting that I'm attacking their worship.

zeluko,

In your rage it seems you forgot to say what exactly you dont like about it.

LinusWorks4Mo,
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I dislike

well thought out

just_another_person,

You should be blaming the developers who aren’t developing FOR Wayland.

Actually, let me take that back a bit…

Developing for GUI is tough. Developing for TWO different display systems to render a GUI is twice as hard, and then each variant of the variant even further difficult. The fact is, the basic working of X started in the 70’s, became productized in the 80’s, and the X11 version we’ve all been working without in the early 90’s. Something had to change. This is that change.

As a developer who writes for Wayland, I prefer it. Most do. If every major distro had switched a few years ago, you’d be having a smoother experience right now, but here we are.

My point is: hate the ecosystem or whatever, but Wayland is a way forward, and keeping coherency for compatibility for both is hard. Do your best to help make a smoother transition for the devs working on such things if you are capable and have time.

verdantbanana,
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

could you expand on this at all?

Arch Linux with a Gnome desktop with low core hardware even dual core a year ago on Wayland would not be a to play a video on VLC for a week straight no power offs or restarts without crashing and or some error

Fast forward to today and that same setup even without updating regularly will get you the same experience as Windows in regard to stability and being able to stay running without crashes or errors

Shout out to the Steam team for their contributions to Linux and yes use Arch btw and feel am able to make more changes to the system than before

papafoss,

Why you don’t like Wayland would be a more interesting post.

GunnarGrop,

Not that unpopular an opinion, I feel like I hear it here and other places quite often. A fair opinion, like any other, but the problem for you is that there is no alternative to Wayland. X is abandonwere, as is Mir. The Wayland specs were written by X shills (I.e the X devs) because X is unmaintainable, so it’s going to be very hard, if at all possible, to get other devs to effectively maintain X.

As for immutable distros: I’ve used Linux personally for a decade and worked as a Linux sysadmin for a few years, and I think immutable distros are great. They make server maintanence and lifecycle management a dream. If you haven’t tried using them as server operating systems, I’d highly recommend using openSUSE MicroOS, and just trying it out! Deployments with podman or kubernetes and you have a rock solid, secure, and easily maintained system.

hollyberries,

Day old account, crying about Wayland

Please share more of your valuable opinions!

cebef,

Nothing to do with the topic in hand. Now go through my post history and label me as an alt right nazi fascist or whatever and get me banned.

cashews_best_nut,

I don’t see anything alt-right in your past comments.

Btw I agree with the Wayland thing. I won’t move to it until it’s perfect. X works fine for me.

hollyberries,

I don’t need to, you’ve already told on yourself.

vzq,

I was about to say, that’s an oddly specific request…

GravitySpoiled,

You forgot to mention systemd

cebef,

No. While systemd might fall under the same forced adoption and passive agressive strategy, it actually works and does not make a single difference for the average user unlike the other buzzwords. It’s a rare exception.

unknowing8343,

Don’t worry, we are sure you Wayland haters will keep up some obscure X distro with a spacebar-heater feature while the rest of the world keeps moving forward.

cebef,

The shill campaign is working well if this is how brainwashed you are

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