Animortis, 10 months ago

Yeah I agree on Debian. I love Debian. But I feel we need a community-built LTS distro, though. These RHEL clones filled that niche.

Debian releases are good for the time the main release is the primary one, and then a few months after it's successor. You need to upgrade to the new one or lose patches. It's not a hard upgrade, but anything that could brick a server makes admins nervous, and with Debian releases aging basically from their release date, you could be stuck with a server with a potentially one-year life before needing to be re-worked.

Some kind of distro that is community built, but which seems to have a life-cycle similar to Ubuntu: Five year LTS's every few years. Won't need the six-month-release thing, since other distros do that in spades.

Borgzilla, 10 months ago

As an old fart, I’m happy to see that Debian is still cool. All of this arch-manjaro-nix-os-awesome-bspwm-i3-xmonad-flatsnap whippersnapper stuff is over my head.

withersailor, 10 months ago

As an old fart, Devuan is like debian of yesteryear. Debian without systemd.

triantares, 10 months ago

@withersailor @Borgzilla There's also #Elive Retrowave to consider.
You get to choose in the installer which system you want.

sundaylab, 10 months ago

I have been using Debian for about 20 years now. Server and desktop. But I recently migrated all my server stuff to FreeBSD and I don’t think I will move back. Jails are great and provide me a convenient way to isolate my apps. On the desktop side I will stay with Debian.

TheAnonymouseJoker, 10 months ago

Debian

Debian 12 Bookworm is their best release ever, and I am seeing a lot of positive opinions about it suddenly. It may be a Ubuntu 16.04 moment.

eoli3n, 10 months ago

Details ?

TheAnonymouseJoker, 10 months ago

Go check The Linux Experiment’s video, among a lot of other videos and discussion forums.

eoli3n, 10 months ago

Those are not “details”, but “blur sources”.

TheAnonymouseJoker, 10 months ago

Have you bothered to research the consensus and what Debian’s new release has? Literally 2 minutes away if you search internet instead of replying. Do not expect spoonfeeding.

eoli3n, 10 months ago

Bla bla bla, so much energy to just not give what I ask for.

lhx, 10 months ago

Debian.

Mortalsub, 10 months ago

Debian 12, Opensuse leap or tumbleweed, SLES, Fedora, Linux mint / LMDE, Freebsd, Alma Linux OS

eltimablo, 10 months ago

Leap is going away after this version, isn't it?

bertmacho, 10 months ago

Void Linux. It just works.

woelkchen, 10 months ago

(open)SUSE

uncapybarable, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Personal and general purpose: KDE Neon (yeah yeah)

Servers: IDK, now. Probably going to check out SUSE.

mordekaiq90, 10 months ago

Gentoo! it can be anything you want on any platform

Overcast, 10 months ago

I use Ubuntu for everything (including at work, tens of thousands machines) and it's great

woelkchen, 10 months ago

I use Ubuntu for everything (including at work, tens of thousands machines) and it’s great

If RHEL-based is no longer an option for OP, how would of all things Ubuntu be the alternative?

PelagiusSeptim, 10 months ago

Canonical's not great, but they certainly aren't removing the publicly available source code, nor could they since the distro is publicly available.

Jcb2016, 10 months ago

Debian is stable. Arch is bleeding edge and vanilla. if you want something on arch you got to install it and follow the arch wiki

TooL, 10 months ago

• Debian for stable.
• Fedora if you want a bit more bleeding edge.
• Arch for desktop/laptops.

At least that's how I've been running my homelab stuff for years now.

Venutianxspring, 10 months ago

I’m on fedora and it’s been fantastic

i_am_hiding, 10 months ago

I run Debian servers and Fedora workstations, which works really well for me. The rock solid stability of Debian is exactly what I want in a server, and the perfect blend of it-just-works and blending-edge that Fedora provides is great for a daily driver.

Unless I’m mistaken, the current ordeal with RHEL should not affect Fedora, as RHEL is a derivative of Fedora in the same way Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian. As such, I see no reason to move away just yet - though if that changes, I’ll go OpenSUSE. Arch just isn’t for me.

TooL, 10 months ago

Bingo, the changes will not affect fedora in any way as it is upstream of rhel.

astrsk, 10 months ago

Every single vm in my home lab is Debian, from the minimal installer, running on proxmox which is Debian based. Every new install is ~7 minutes and has been so stable that my uptimes are only under 100% because of yearly power outages longer than my UPS can handle. Average uptime is ~half a year on each box.

Unblended, 10 months ago

I hate recommending software too hard since it's so heavily dependent on your situation.

If you're able to get Debian of some variety working, I think it is very simple to use.

If it doesn't work easily, Ubuntu is like debian but has more proprietary drivers.

There are also different window managers you can use that look and act differently.

The simplest thing to do is to get a live CD for debian and see if it works right away. If not, maybe try live CDs for the Ubuntu versions.

Dunno about other options, I only really know those two anymore.