Sometimes less is more

ninsix, 8 months ago

Correction: first image: Windows update second image: Arch Linux third image: Void Linux

SaltyIceteaMaker, 9 months ago

I get stuck on a black screen about every 10 or so reboots/shutdowns

YonatanAvhar, 10 months ago

A stop job is running for Simple Desktop Display Manager

dorumon, 9 months ago

I think you can configure systemd to force shutdown such things in like 2 seconds which is the only way I can shut down my Thinkpad running Debian 12.

majlitech, 9 months ago

So real

flossdaily, 10 months ago

I remember going from MS-DOS to Windows and being really annoyed that I couldn’t see the loading log.

Same with Android phones in the beginning when they were still the scrappy underdog. I wanted to see machinery at work!

janus2, 9 months ago

I would rather watch console output I don’t understand scrolling by too fast to read than some dumb spinning dots >:[

mortrek, 10 months ago

You’re forgetting the 10 minutes of mandatory Windows updates.

u202307011927, 10 months ago

Only ten??

mvirts, 10 months ago

Wait you guys don’t sudo echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger?

SteveTech, 10 months ago

I think you’d have to do echo o | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger, otherwise sudo only works for the echo, not the write.

mvirts, 10 months ago

Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot 😅

GuyNoIRQ, 10 months ago

echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger🫣

outdated_belated, 10 months ago

Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. I’d used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous.

clumsyninza, 10 months ago

What does tee do?

SteveTech, 10 months ago

It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn’t needed (we’re just using it to write with sudo), but it’s good to know.

mvirts, 10 months ago

button?

db2, 10 months ago

Windows is doing stuff behind that splash screen too though

freeman, 10 months ago

It is. Just never says what’s hung.

Frankly It’s more like

Windows - “shut down please. No it’s fine, I’ll wait. Indefinately is fine”

Linux “ shut down please. You have 30 seconds or I’ll shut you down myself”

bali10050, 10 months ago

If my pc doesn’t shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it’s just affraid of me

CameronDev, 10 months ago

And arch does the exact same thing as Ubuntu :/ not sure what they are trying to say with this one.

RockyBass, 10 months ago

Yeah idk, many distros show the classic startup/shutdow process

bali10050, 10 months ago

Mine just kills the power. Faster than manually unplugging the pc

CameronDev, 10 months ago

Did you configure it that way? I’m fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data?

bali10050, 10 months ago

I don’t know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it’s cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I’m not 100% sure if it’s normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is

SoonaPaana, 10 months ago

Chaotic mofo 😂

MinusPi, 10 months ago

It’s not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu.

backhdlp, 10 months ago

I don’t get it, shutting down looks like the Ubuntu one to me.

sorrowl, 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

There’s a kernel option to disable the text and it’s on by default on Arch, but not on Ubuntu.

Edit: It seems that the kernel parameter is not on by default. I’ve always used GRUB and the text hasn’t appeared for me until I’ve removed the quiet option in the GRUB config file so I thought it was on by default. It might be on by default with GRUB or I’m remembering wrong.

backhdlp, 10 months ago

It’s not on by default.

Tranus, 10 months ago

I’m not sure that’s right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn’t change any kernel options. Also, I’ve never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo.

GamingChairModel, 10 months ago

it’s on by default on Arch

I don’t think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don’t include the “quiet” parameter.