What at-home stuff can you do to maintain your teeth? Brushing and flossing twice a day just doesn’t cut it. Brown stuff still eventually builds up around the edges and right above the gum line (although it does take quite a few years). Being obsessive about dental hygiene only delays the buildup and is not sustainable on its own. I may be able to afford dentist appointments now but by the way society is headed, that may not be the case 10 years from now or even next month.
I have periodontal disease so I feel this. I actually extra feel this, because I have perio because my parents never took care of me as a kid, and then in my adulthood while I spend tons of money for maintenance and have lots of pain they try to gaslight me into thinking they didn’t do anything wrong and try to guilt trip me into reestablishing contact with them. Fuck that lol.
I’m so sorry to hear what you’re dealing with. I think the most important thing we can try to take from the pains, is to try treating others better than we were treated, despite how difficult it might be.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean. I try to treat other people well as much as I can. Doesn’t mean I’m going to get back into contact with abusive and negletful parents that did serious long term damage and pain to me with lifetime consequences that I now have no say over.
Not to disagree with your general philosophy, but in this particular case amaze’s parents are already being positive because they don’t accept blame and want more contact. They won’t start treating their child better after all these years; amaze would just stress themselves out. There’s got to be some limit to how much abuse they should be expected to endure.
That’s what I’m saying, I’m 32. Idk people keep saying they can’t afford afford a house, it’s called priorities. Most kids want a nice car before getting a house.
True. I want a nice car before getting a house. How the fuck else will I get to my job to pay for my car and house? And by “nice” I mean “won’t break down on the way to my job.” very few of my friends have ever bought a new car.
I keep on having this debate with my dad. He’s 73 and I’m 37. One night he was like “people from your generation want to buy a ‘starter home’ and a vacation home, and then a few years later buy a bigger home!” and I was like “no one in my generation is even thinking about buying a vacation home when they can barely make a livable wage in a lot of fields.” Teachers make about $25/hour (about 35-40k/year) and they deal with tons of shit from the faculty, state, and students themselves. I was making $112k/year working in IT and could barely afford to live by myself in or close to Manhattan.
Edit: just for context, my rent was $2500/month for a 500 sq ft 1 bedroom apartment about 30-45 minutes from Manhattan. The sales tax rate in NYC is 10%. A burger and a beer can easily cost you $20.
I worked for Disney+ (got laid off about a month ago) as a Linux Systems Engineer, so it’s not like I worked for a small company doing Windows desktop support (I was making 50k/year doing that in NYC, $30k/year doing the same thing about 3 hours south in NJ). It is a significant amount of money, but the taxes screwed me, I’d only see about 85k of it, couple that with 10% tax on everything and the increased prices of living in the most expensive city in the US and it’s not as much as you think it is. About 60% of my monthly income went to rent and bills.
The (boomer) generation holds bizarrely strong biases, it could be they subconsciously they do it to avoid admitting they’ve screwed their kids with their political votes, or more likely they simply only care about getting their own and aren’t thinking far enough ahead to realize their being snookered and driving the bus off a cliff.
It’s okay if you make the concession of possibly moving quite a long distance, at least here in sweden you can find houses that aren’t that expensive if you look around smaller cities and in cities with municipal housing companies you can usually find outright okay rents with the caveat that you have to sign up 5 years in advance to be at the front of the queue.
Compared to North America, including Canada it’s s whole lot better. Even the expensive city’s are more “affordable” than anything I’ve ever seen from the posts about new York.
I just moved out of NYC after 5 years because it was just getting even more expensive than it was pre-pandemic. I was paying $2500/month for a 500 sq ft, 1 BR with a dishwasher and 2 passthrough (in wall) AC units with paid laundry in the basement, and that was pretty cheap. This was in a small residential neighborhood in Brooklyn, about 11 miles (45 minutes) from Midtown Manhattan. There was nothing around me, you had to drive, walk 20-25 minutes or take the subway to pretty much everything.
Yeah, unfortunately most the western US was built on the asinine belief everyone should/does have a car and everyone convinced themselves they enjoyed the idea. But with gas at the price it’s at, along with regularly congested freeways, only now is it being noticed we should’ve planned ahead. To make it worse, there’s so much red tape when dealing with politicians that a projects budget can easily cost 3 times more and take 4 times longer and risk not even getting completed. There’s space and money here, but it’s basically being managed by red assed baboons looking for campaign donations or how their donors can buy up homes and turn them into a block of AirBNB’s lol.
But enough of my ranting, I agree it’s not sustainable and that’s why you’ll see people living in motor homes at night. I know a friends house in LA County has gone from 270k before and is now 500k. No one can afford to purchase, anyone who does is looking at the collapse we saw around 2009, but now it’s houses and car loans. 🙄 It’s like watching people dry hump door knobs lol.
70 percent of people in the EU own homes. In the US it’s 65 percent.
While it is lower among millennials, especially compared to Boomers at their age, the majority of them still own homes. While I don’t have stats on Gen Z, the oldest among them is 25.
Almost all dental issues can be avoided with preventative measures. Virtually every single white collar job offers dental. Some blue collar jobs do. If your job does not offer dental, it’s available on the ACA exchange for like $20/month.
Again, despite what reddit would have you believe about us all being paid poverty wages, the vast majority of Americans can afford dental.
Finally, I don’t understand why reddit sees the fact that Boomers got married and had kids at like 21 on the late end a good thing. Basically everyone acknowledges marrying young is absolutely idiotic most of the time. Even more people acknowledge that having kids is a dumb idea. Boomers were forced into that. There’s a huge reason a ton of Boomer Humor is about hating your spouse.
Also at this point someone with Boomer parents is in their thirties or forties. Someone with Boomer parents who came of age when the economy was amazing and houses were dirt cheap is 50+. If you can’t afford dental at that age, you’ve fucked up big-time somewhere along the way.
In addition, I’m pretty sure people are straight up making up stuff. Spending $700 before you break even on dental insurance is straight up fiction.
My last two companies, the dental plan was $50/mo (or a total of $600/yr). Other than having only a $25 copay for cleaning, it was between 10% and 20% coinsure with a $1000 limit.
That means optimistically, I needed to spend about $2500 to break even on the most optimistic coinsure, and my benefits disappeared after I spent $5000 (and only would cost the insurance company $400 if I spent every penny).
I literally mathed it out in a year I needed 2 root canals and it would have been cheaper to NOT have the plan. And that was before I discovered the fact my office had special “uninsured assistance” that wasn’t driven by income.
Many Dental plans are an absolute scam. Part of the problem on them is that most people in some areas ONLY get dental insurance if they know they’re going to need it. Makes it hard to have a price that works. It’s part of why I have always supported government-paid insurance for medical and dental issues.
Okay so if you’re actually not lying, then opt out of your insurance plan and buy a delta dental plan via their exchange or the website. It’s quite literally half the cost and comes with free preventative services.
I kinda thought I’d stop hearing the constant bad-faith accusations when I left reddit. I suppose not.
Just went to the Delta site and checked my state. The ONLY plan in my state they have that covers non-trivial work is $60/mo with a maximum coverage of $1000. The 80% (I know Delta employees… no dentist I would use is in their network) coverage after copay is nice, but you’re still paying $700+ out of pocket for a potential $1000 total coverage. And unless you think I’m lying about the “Uninsured discount”, it means if my dentist gives me a $300 discount on work for being uninsured (they do), I still end up ahead.
So thank you for implying I’m lying and then giving me the directions to prove my point.
my man its clearly made more absurd for comedic purposes this community is called Memes not “100% realistic comic depictions of economic conditions”, you cant deny health insurance is a big problem for many people in US.
So since you feel they’re taking it at face value, that means you should take it at face value too? People have tried making light of their issues to comedic effect to cope with the struggles for a long time. So this feels like a weirdly personal high horse position you’re taking.
How good is this $20 dental insurance? I work for a place with decent benefits and with coinsurance, co-pays and the cost we would have to have $700 worth of dental work a year just to break even. $1,000 worth of work would save us $180 vs out of pocket… and it’s capped at $1k.
The meme said that their parents in their thirties were buying homes, and they can’t even afford dental.
The majority of millennials have bought homes.
More importantly, the overwhelming people in the US can afford dental.
You guys make up scenarios to push BS narratives. Then spam the word “capitalism” ignoring the fact that the majority of the world runs under capitalism.
If OP can’t afford a house or dental then the meme is accurate to them and millions like them. Dental insurance isn’t guaranteed, after all. Capitalism requires winners and losers, and losers don’t get houses or dental insurance.
Like, my dude, there are Americans that can’t afford to take $20 off every paycheck (and that shit only covers cleanings, hope you don’t get a chipped tooth!)
Seriously, it’s just a big strawman argument. The idea that a certain percentage of people own homes says nothing about the affordability of said homes. The percentage of millenials that own homes are consistently using drastically higher percentages of their income than previous generations. And the Healthcare crisis in the US speaks for itself. People arguing against this just want to dance around the topic and not actually argue the real point.
Okay, first you need a civics lessons. Capitalism isn’t a governmental system, it’s an economic system.
This economic system is widely used across the world. This includes most of Europe. Acting like this is just an invitable part of capitalism ignores the fact that the government can pass laws to create a social safety net.
They did. People living at or slightly above the poverty line have dental coverage through Medicaid. People with income above that threshold and no not have dental offered by their job have access to subsidies through the ACA.
Are there people who can’t afford dental? Sure. America is a massive country. However acting like it’s in any way common is insane.
Almost all dental issues can be avoided with preventative measures. Virtually every single white collar job offers dental. Some blue collar jobs do. If your job does not offer dental, it’s available on the ACA exchange for like $20/month.
The problem is is that insurance is a scam, you pay out the ass monthly for something you may need to use at some point in the future, and even then they’re like “we may cover the cost of this later on, but first you have to pay $500 (the deductible) until it comes to the point…”
Yeah, just to sit there in the waiting room for 2 hours, have them brush your teeth for you, and be like “yeah, everything looks good. come back in six months!”. I can brush my own teeth, thanks.
The point of insurance is supposed to be cover surprises because everyone eventually has a few. Typical dental coverage nowadays isn’t really insurance at all, it’s a payment plan. I literally opted out of insurance in a year where I expected I needed dental work and it saved me money.
Exactly! I take fastidious care of my teeth - I’ve only ever had 1 cavity 10 years ago - but recently I broke the filling and the dentist said it has to be a crown. I have dental insurance that covers two cleanings per year and just like u said, I still had to pay $500 for the crown. That was a big setback.
Implants–which actually function exactly like real teeth–are considered optional, cosmetic luxuries. They’re almost never covered by dental plans and cost thousands of dollars. Per tooth.
Dentures–which suck and are mainly cosmetic and don’t allow you to eat the same foods you always had when you had real teeth–are considered necessary and practical. You can get free dentures from government/welfare insurance. But even out of pocket are are only a couple hundred.
Mmm, $500 complete upper or lower but it cost me 3.5k out of pocket to go to a dental school and have the broken or useless shit out so I could get dentures and that’s ignoring the fact my loss of teeth is a genetic issue not lack of care.
I had to get a root canal the other day. The dentist had to wait to see if my insurance would cover it because I had recently had a different root canal and “they sometimes don’t pay for more than one.”
I remember going to the dentist in my 20s, he said that a root was inflamed and needed treatment immediatly, otherwise the root could die and so on and so on. Then he told me how much it would cost, since the insurance doesn’t cover that treatment, it was about 1800 euros. I asked him in all seriousness if my insurance would pay if I just would let things happen and get my tooth pulled out afterwards one day, since 1800 Euro was waaay to much for me to pay those days - and still is.
I know this isn’t dental related, but I couldn’t see a therapist and a psychiatrist in the same day (virtually) because insurance wouldn’t cover that.
I’ve been putting off having two root canals/fillings/caps for years because I don’t feel like spending thousands on it, in case they don’t cover it. I know I should get this done before people tell me horror stories…again.
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