tygerprints,

I gotta agree with cartoon Bernie on this one. Here in Utah the three big concerns of our upcoming legislative session are: how to ban more transgender people from public restrooms, how to prosecute women who may have had an abortion at anytime in the past, and how to ensure colleges and universities can no longer encourage diversity, equity, or inclusion under criminal penalty. I'm not joking, those are the main focuses of the upcoming session.

Never mind that homelessness is out of control, housing prices are through the roof, drug addiction is at an all time high, and the great Salt lake is now nothing but a mud puddle that will dry up in five years' time.

More important to score political points with your witless white-ass cronies and mormon shit heads.

Kase,

how to ensure colleges and universities can no longer encourage diversity, equity, or inclusion under criminal penalty

Just wanted to note, Oklahoma just passed a similar law (this link is to a news article, which includes a link to the bill itself).

One thing that’s crazy to me is when they go on about how much money universities are spending on these programs, when here in Oklahoma it’s 0.29% of all higher education spending and 0.11% of state expenditures on higher education.

Shit sucks right now, and I dunno where my home state is headed. It’s hard to tell if things will get better or worse in the long run.

Whatever the case, stay strong over there. o7

tygerprints,

I'll do my best - you hang tough out there also. I feel bad for people in Oklahoma who are stuck with the same type of right wing nutjobbery we have in Utah. The people are completely the opposite of what the legislature thinks they are. We have absolutely zero say in what goes on.

For example, we voted for fairer redistricting, but the legislature overrode it because it might have allowed a democrat into office.

Even though most of Utah's population is not conservative, we have no voice at all in our government. A lot of is controlled by the mormon church.

Shit sucks indeed. But at least I can harrass and harangue them with letters and opinion pieces in the newspaper that call them out for the scumbags they really are. They hate that.

shiveyarbles,

Yeah I feel like Republicans have been grooming Americans into slack jawed cultists with their war against, education, books, cultural diversity, etc. the government is a sad clown show

tygerprints,

It's so odd we have a march today (MLK day) for "Equity, Diversity and Inclusion," while last week our Utah Governor called "equity and diversity the most evil concepts mankind can indulge in." And now Utah colleges are forbidden to allow any diversity in hiring.

Chriswild,

Mormons also believe horses existed in North America prior to the Spanish bringing them over. All because a dude who wanted to marry his adopted daughter made some shit up about some golden plates.

AngryCommieKender,

Well, there were North American “horses,” they just all died out around 11,400 years ago, so well after the aboriginals got here, but a bit before the Spanish.

Chriswild,

Sure and camels too

tygerprints,

The whole Mormon religion is as baseless and nonsensical as a Dr. Seuss story, only more silly. And it's really just a big business, it rakes in money from idiots dumb enough to give up 10% of their income to a cult. I keep telling them, I'm willing to do it for less - all I ask if 5% of your income and you can TA DA suddenly have eternal salvation, and more underage kids to fuck than a weekend with Jeff Dahmer. (!)

Alph4d0g,

You have good energy. Consider adding every other religion to your Dr. Seuss comparison. Religion has poisoned geopolitics for far too long.

tygerprints,

I agree totally. I do consider all religion to be poison, or as Marx (I think) said, the opioid of the masses. But really, it's no more or less terrible than any big business that strips people of their personal freedom and demands fealty and money in return.

Rooskie91,

American’s vote for the government and fund it with their taxes. To believe it’s a system with any other purpose than to serve it’s citizens is assenine.

jettrscga,

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  • Rooskie91,

    I don’t think you get the comic, or understood how my comment was responding to it.

    Also, this is just really condescending. If you’re going to be on the left, you have to learn how to argue in a way that actually convinces people you’re ideas are better. This just makes you sounds like a jerk.

    andymouse,

    Actually, citizens pay taxes to avoid going to jail or, in the olden days (perhaps soon to be reintroduced), to avoid being killed on the spot.

    They vote because when you are locked in a room with no way out, you’ll push one of the buttons in front of you frantically - trying to figure out if, perhaps, they are pushed just like this, you’ll get out.

    When you’re not paying taxes or voting, someone richer than Smaug from the Hobbit is cashing in on the rest of your life.

    To call this a system that serves its citizens seems… I’m not sure what to call it. Naïve? Misguided? Uninformed?

    orrk,

    better than what we had before the whole government thing, if you think this is bad, wait until the warlords come kill you, enslave your children and use your wife as a baby production machine

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

    The warlords are also a government. However, the fact that warlords emerge when government fails shows that government is inevitable, so the best you can do is try to have a good one.

    andymouse,

    Human organisation and leadership may be an inherent part of us. That is not government…

    I find it funny the way people just accept that they are sheep and need someone to protect them from the big bad wolf. And, of course, enlist the big bad wolf to protect them.

    orrk,

    I also find it hilarious when people pretend they alone are not the weak little sheep waiting on any more organized group to eat them.

    I’m also sus of people who use the sheep/wolf/sheepdog analogy since it’s literally Nazi propaganda, as espoused by Nazis themselves…

    andymouse,

    This is a bit of an old reply, but I thought I’d post something I stumbled upon here as it’s a response to your fear of warlords: kolektiva.social/…/111290743792188200

    From the post (it’s quite extensive with plenty of references):

    “Once people are free of state violence and hierarchy, how can they just stop some bad actor from taking over?”

    The assumption is that people who are free from coercive hierarchies are powerless to act in their own self defense, alone or in cooperation with each other.

    (The question is usually accompanied by some invocation of the dreaded “war lord” whom the questioner assumes will inevitably overrun a nonstate or non-hierarchical community.)

    So, I thought I would take a crack at answering this as comprehensively as I can!>>

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

    The assumption is that people who are free from coercive hierarchies are powerless to act in their own self defense, alone or in cooperation with each other.

    That’s the problem. Acting alone is not an option since an organized force will always defeat a disorganized one, and “cooperation” would mean forming the same kinds of hierarchies and governments that we already have, except they won’t have the centuries of stress-testing our present democratic systems have undergone and will therefore fall to corruption and authoritarianism much more easily.

    This is why anarchism is such a bankrupt ideology. At best it consists of people willing to burn the world down to institute a system that would be the same but worse.

    andymouse,

    Doesn’t seem like you read any of it, and it doesn’t seem like you are open to new ideas. So… In the status quo you remain then. Good luck!

    PhlubbaDubba,

    Wasn’t JFKs speech supposed to be about not seeing a community only for what you get out of it?

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    That might be what the speech meant in context, but the quote alone sounds like something Animal Farm’s Napoleon would say to Boxer.

    AllonzeeLV,

    Do you understand how offensive that concept is to a market capitalist?

    They don’t even want to fund public schools, and they get a pre-literate workforce out of that.

    “Whats in it for me” would be our national slogan, if it wasn’t already “fuck you whether or not I got mine.”

    PapaStevesy,

    Based

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