Alright so I’m pretty dumb when it comes to this stuff…I’m on the shit works instance, so does that mean I can see all the stuff on the others when I go too ALL or are the all different?
Long answer: Instances federate with each other by default. Sometimes an instance defederates from a particular other instance, usually for good reasons (and oftentimes you’re not missing out on valuable stuff). Your instance hosts your account and stuff you post, but connects you to stuff hosted on other instances as well. If some instance goes down, noone can access stuff posted from that instance (like users, posts etc.)
Yeah, after what happened to VLemmy I decided to start my own instance, that way as long as I maintain it I know for a fact that it won’t just go down.
Basically. There was no announcement and no one’s really sure what happened, the server kinda just died one day and the admin never said anything about it.
Would be nice to have some form of account portability that would work after a server vanishes. Like, way to register a pubkey on a server and then register a signed message at another server that this is your new account.
That would be very nice, though how it would be implemented would be difficult. One way it could potentially be done is the new server has to request control from the old one, that would be fairly secure but would introduce the problem of “What if the old one no longer exists?” It could be that there’s a key that you send with your activity to verify it’s you which can be moved to a new instance, but then you run into the issue of how to stop a malicious instance admin from getting your info. You could have a centralized authentication service, though many dislike that because it goes against federation to some extent. I know on Mastadon you can transition your followers, I don’t know how it works but it’s possible they figured out a good solution.
Pretty much, just vanished off the face of the earth. Donation links got shut down too. I’ve seen some discussions alleging there was an incident with law enforcement (A user uploaded “japanese underage child” content to the server, which was illegal in vlemmy’s juristiction - ireland IIRC?) and shortly after that the server disappeared
Was a budding smaller instance and then suddenly without warning it disappeared. I’m not sure if we know what happened, but it’s actually one of the reasons why I want to stay on the bigger instances. Smaller ones have the risk of just poofing away one day…whereas larger ones may have occasional downtime and issues, your account is less likely to be unexpectedly lost to the void.
This right here. The primary benefit of the matrix protocol would be that a community would keep on chugging as any particular instances go up and down. There would be no “home” instance that goes down and takes the community with it.
This choice is going to see some communities get really big, but then the “home” instance goes belly-up, or makes some, ahem “management decisions” that really hurt the community, and they are going to have to painfully jump ship again and again.
The downside would be higher resource demands for instance owners -but that’s a problem that will get better over time, instead of worse.
The resource issue also isn’t really that big of a deal, i’ve managed to keep up with tons of big chat rooms with messages every second on my OLD matrix server, and it’s been refined since then.
So that instance admins can maintain more control over who can use their instance. I think it might be a modding nightmare otherwise.
Honestly I think such a decentralized distributed type website should exist, but moderation would be very difficult and it’d be like some kind of dark web 4chan
It’s the same reason there isn’t a central email sign on. Different people control different servers. They’re all just using the same protocol so they are interoperable. Just like your email, you have an address that points to your particular account on your particular provider. Name@host.tld. It’s essentially the same thing as email, just a different form of interaction.
I get you don’t want to engage with tankie propaganda when you open lemmy (fair, me neither), but lemmygrad.ml is already defederated from most instances. I don’t see the problem with lemmy.ml, wich is a general purpose instance run by the dev, with diverse communities and users. Unless you want to boicot the dev, but then why use his software at all? I don’t get it
It’s irrelevant who made lemmy since it’s an open source project. Both reddit and lemmy are products of capitalist systems.
It’s also using ActivityPub protocol, which was developed by W3C, a non-profit organization with a CEO, a board of directors and sponsored by large corporations such as Amazon, Google and Microsoft.
People are allowed to support whatever political causes they wish, so long as they are willing to engage civilly and fairly with other people. This is how the modern world works, with dialogue and debate instead of censorship, cowardly avoidance and control.
So we both agree that open dialogue is important and that censorship and control are bad.
That’s great to hear that you also oppose the Chinese governments complete censorship of the Uyghur genocide. We should have an open dialogue that anyone who supports such authoritarian control should be made known as such.
Sure, that’s fine and good, dialogue to your hearts content. But don’t think fixing them is our job. Only war could save the Uyghurs, providing it did not go nuclear. And fighting a war against China is dangerous…
Their entire race is, unfortunately, dead men walking and there’s not a damn thing we can do about it. China simply does not have to listen to our wishes. We need to worry about our people, not policing the rest of the world.
I don’t believe that you’re consistent on this position.
I would be incredibly shocked if you had the same stance towards white supremacists, Nazis, or pedophiles that want to remove age of consent.
If you do, then cheers. You’re practically a unicorn (in the sense that it’s extremely rare). I don’t disagree with that position as long as it’s consistant
Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that.
They’re just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I’m not saying parent poster is correct)
At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it.
Directions don’t only become directions when you have power. They’re just ineffective if you don’t have it. Doesn’t mean you’re not at least trying to control people
That is not semantics whatsoever. “Don’t open that door” is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different?
If all dialogue was in good faith, I would agree. Unfortunately not all discussion exists to obtain new perspectives, but to push harmful agendas. Those dialogues should absolutely be disregarded.
I think there’s absolutely things worth doing boycotts over. I don’t really like to have much to do with anything that is benefiting Russia for example. We can both have our opinions.
And Tbh anyone saying anything else is probably just propaganda - Id be willing to bet the biggest racist and biggest tankie would be best friends given the right introduction. Good ol divide and conquer
From a user interaction POV, just have a couple of accounts. I started out on a small server, got a .world and kbin account, then got a beehaw account. If a server is down, I just switch instances.
From a community standpoint, it’s terrible because the instance hosts the only live version of the communities. IMHO communities shouldn’t be instance specific. Every (federated) instance should have a two-way aggregation of identically named communities. That has some (minor) drawbacks, but is much better for new users to understand and is much more resilient to individual instance failures and outages. (/rant.off)
When I’m sorting by all, instead of local or subscribed communities/magazines, everything I see comes from lemmy.world. It looks like Kbin/Sopuli/Beehaw are just a desert, until you sort by local and, aleluyah, there is updated content.
Well you’re doing better than most English speakers, and you got the word close enough to understand what you were saying. It’s a strange word in english anyway
I highly recommend spreading out and creating accounts on other instances. Whenever one instance has issues or something, I just use another. That’s the strength of the fediverse.
Plus, you might find (or create) some cool local posts, which helps spread out content.
Depends on whether you are trying to reduce the likelihood of people tracking you across instances (for example, if one account is for porn). If you just want duplicate accounts on which you’ll do the same things, I don’t see why it would be a problem to use the same name.
I guess I’m lucky to be on lemmy.ca, but it’s concerning that a lot of the popular stuff is located on two servers. What’s the point of the fediverse, then?
The posted content is almost all backed up elsewhere, iirc. My understanding is that the risk is less having a huge amount of content being generated on specific servers than it is having a lot of users concentrated on those servers. Restoring data from backup or migrating communities (from a content perspective, as in, rehosting) is a lot easier than having people locked out, or, worse, losing accounts altogether.
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