lemmy.ml is migrated to a new server

Its now running on a dedicated server with 6 cores/12 threads and 32 gb ram. I hope this will be enough for the near future. Nevertheless, new users should still prefer to signup on other instances.

This server is financed from donations to the Lemmy project. If you want to support it, please consider donating.

db0,
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Cool. Which provider, if you want to share?

nutomic,
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Ovh

db0,
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You feel safe that they won’t take a dim look on piracy then?

nutomic,
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No they dont seem to care at all.

db0,
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very interesting. Thanks for letting me know.

kinojo,

Noice. Now it is fast!

androidul,

hey 👋 do you have some Grafana dashboard where we can check user increase?

Given the no. of posts on this instance I guess it has quite a large user base and I’m really surprised how it manages to run on that amount of resources 😄

interdimensionalmeme,

How to migrate an account to another instance without losing anything including relationships ?

techgearwhips,

This is what I need to know. I also have an account on Lemmy world as a backup

ki77erb,

I was wondering the same thing. I initially created an account on some obscure instance because I didn't fully understand what I was doing. I just abandoned it and set up a new one on lemmy world. I think I'm getting the hang of it now. I'm curious to see how Lemmy grows and matures over time. There is still a learning curve that will keep some people away.

interdimensionalmeme,

You should be able to join any instance and get the same fediverse experience. But something is broken and if you don't join the biggest instance then you are missing out.

hanni,

Thanks! Donated 5$ - I encourage others to do the same.

Dreyns,

Just started supporting this instance on liberapay, if other follow you'll hopefully be able to upgrade the potato soon !

Chaos,

Are the json objects related to the migration? Btw, thanks for your hard work!

anugeshtu,

Thank you for your hard work! Although I kinda foresee for the future if Lemmy really would become the new "reddit" with such servers and millions of users, wouldn't that also rise the server costs and ultimately make the hosts dependent on asking money for it, maybe by a paywall or by ads? I think to make this community really be "free" without any host responsible for spending a huge amount of money for servers, the best solution would be to make the actual "servers" be a p2p cluster. Unfortunately I'm not quite sure how to realize that without losing a huge fraction of the model if a lot of nodes (i.e., the actual users) are offline. Sorry, I'm just brainstorming.

orthizaR,

I would love a social network powered by the users that are using it. Maybe also running something like serverless functions on the client devices.

narF,

You might want to check the Earthstar project: https://earthstar-project.org/ They are working on that. Right now, it's super early; they are building the foundations. Peer-to-peer is unfortunately much more difficult to code then servers, because less people have built the building-blocks required, and because mobile phones are actively making it hard to run peer-to-peer apps.

fourstepper,

Hi @nutomic. Thanks for the upgrade and for your work.

May I ask about the resources utilization now? CPU, RAM, storage? Thanks!

nutomic,
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Load average is around 4, ram and storage are also rather low. So there are plenty of reserves for now.

fourstepper,

Thanks. Thinking about hosting a Czech instance for lemmy, that's why I am asking

Sanras,

If that's the load average now on a 6c/12t system with 32GB, just how bad was the previous server?!?

Was this website running on a Raspberry Pi or something?

riot_baby,

Was running on a potato

xevilia,

Thanks for your hard work, I really can tell the difference. Now lemmy.ml is much more responsive than before

christhebaker,

Is there a way to migrate my account to a new server?

Blaskowitz,

Is it possible to horizontally scale these instances instead of just upping the machine hardware? What are the main performance bottlenecks typically?

mwlczk,

Hey, what do you mean by "scale horizontally"? There are multiple approaches to tackle this.

  • Have multiple nodes/pods for the same instance and run them on a cloud-like service provider
  • have RO-instances to handle to read-load
  • share/merge bigger communities/subs over multiple instances
  • ...

All of these requiere most likely a major rewrite/change of Lemmy server software I guess. They are already addressed as issues/feature requests on github In my opinion the first option would fit the most.

Blaskowitz,

My comment was without knowing the topology of Lemmy at all, but my thoughts were initially that vertically scaling can have diminishing returns past a certain threshold. Since the servers seem to be struggling I'm wondering if that has been surpassed and if it's more cost-effective and reliable to scale this way? But if the application isn't written in that way, or the underlying data store isn't equipped for multiple instances then fair enough, I'd be interested as to why especially if Lemmy grows. I'll take a look at open issues and educate myself a bit more though.

danchez1,
seluar,

Same..not sure if it's caused by jerboa as it loads just fine on browser.

tomhellier,

Probably hit the limit again and need a bigger server. It was migrated yesterday

BajakLaut,

The server has become more responsive definitely. I thought my internet routing was so shitty that it took so long to load the site. Nice!

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
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I'm getting 502 error all the time on my lemmy.ml account (lemmygrad account works since i'm posting from it).

Sowatee,

I was getting errors until I deleted my cookies. Try that and see if it works.

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
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It worked, thanks.

techgearwhips,

Same. This is why I had to switch to lemmy.world. Now it's time to subscribe to everything all over again...

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