guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

Not at all sure Kiss is still cool

crawancon,

they’ve always been musical posers/sellouts. that’s sort of their shtick I guess?

to be so gloriously average but pretend to be cool but end up looking fabulously gay.

and their SOUND! sooo …average.

GreenPlasticSushiGrass,
GreenPlasticSushiGrass avatar

I was about 12 years old when they were popular, and I was in the market for posers with an average sound.

Damage,

Nothing’s average to you when you’ve barely listened to anything. Many of us started their musical journey with bands we don’t enjoy anymore because we now know better ones.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

“KISS doesn’t get the joke, man!”

…Dramatic irony is when the reader knows something the character does not.

nokturne213,

Back in the early/mid 90s I had just bought Death Spiritual Healing, Malevolent Creation Ten Commandments, and Nocturnus The Key from a video rental place in my home town.

Me and a buddy listened to all of the metal I just got and decided to see what else we could find. Then we saw it, it had to be the holy grail of heavy metal! There was a motorcycle blasting out of hell and this awesome bat in the background. The album was Bat Out of Hell and the band was so metal their name was Meatloaf! This was going to be soul crushingly heavy…

Damage,

Well, you were lucky anyway, MeatLoaf fucking rules

nokturne213,

When you are expecting something along the lines of the other tapes I had just got, Meatloaf is weak sauce.

Damage,

It’s just different, but he certainly didn’t lack energy

funkless_eck,

there are some Nick Cave tracks with acoustic guitar and violin that are more intense, imo, than Meshuggah etc

e.g. John Finn’s Wife, Papa Won’t Leave You Henry, Stagger Lee.

WamGams,

That’s a good fucking album though. Bat Out of Hell II: Bat Back Into Hell fucking sucked, though I will admit liking his version of a particular song more than Celine Dion’s version.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Bat Out of Hell

Banger album tbh. Plus, not many artists make something like that.

HopeOfTheGunblade,
HopeOfTheGunblade avatar

Thanks for causing me to listen to this album again!

lseif,

“I met a girl and I really think she liked me”

Sam_Bass,

Sometimes you dont want to think you just want to jam

Evil_Shrubbery, (edited )
TronnaRaps,

Kiss sucks

minibyte,

Love the Detroit Rock City reference.

ZILtoid1991,

Detroit Metal City >>> Kiss

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve heard one good song from them and it was played ad nauseum.

Tbird83ii,

Love gun?

HelixDab2,

The incredible irony here is that there are so, so many death and black metal musicians that are genuinely better people than Gene Simmons could ever be. I would trust my kids (note: I do not have kids) around Cannibal Corpse and Cattle Decapitation. I would absolutely not trust Simmons around a teen daughter.

RaoulDook,

Better people and musicians / composers, I’d say

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I would trust my kids (note: I do not have kids) around Cannibal Corpse

Well, maybe not at Pat O’Brien’s house.

If you left your kids with Cattle Decapitation you’d end up picking up a budding eco-terrorist which doesn’t sound half bad

HelixDab2,

Fair point; it seems like he wasn’t storing his firearms safely.

Hope he gets the help he needs. :(

Evil_Shrubbery,

Oh for sure, metal heads are for real wholesome ppl. Metal concerts are probably the lowest in some stupid peer pressure things or macho competitions (who can to the most x stuff, who has the most money, etc), and I absolutely know how many people react to someone needing some help. Maybe because we are a more diverse group related to age? Or because we are everywhere yet nowhere mainstream?

HelixDab2,

I was the Metal Blade 25th anniversary show in Chicago–Cattle Decapitation with Goatwhore, Allegaeon, and Novembers Doom–and the lead of Goatwhore stopped the show to point out the guy that had his 10yo kid (with ear muffs!) at the edge of the pit, and told the crowd to be careful and friendly, because that kid was the future of the scene.

ZILtoid1991,

Depends on. Some places of the metal community outdo gaming toxicity-wise, especially pre-2010s.

Woozythebear,

Crazy, I’ve been to a couple hundred metal shows and never heard anyone say the N word. No one’s ever threatened to kill me or my family. Never heard anyone going around the crowed telling women to get the fuck back in the kitchen… like the fuck you mean?

ZILtoid1991,

I’m jealous of you, but maybe a lot of it comes from me being older, and some of those toxic elders either got reformed, or left the scene entirely.

0xD,

In my experience, the gatekeeping and unhealthy drinking habits are the most toxic aspects of it.

coaxil,

George Fisher is awesome! Plus dat neck haha

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

I’d totally leave my kids with Ozzy but only because I know Sharon would also be there.

fsxylo,

Yeah, if the house caught on fire she could send them back in to save her paintings.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=9fBsRiB3ijs&pp=ygUbc2hhcm9u…

Buddahriffic,

And if anything happens, he’d probably carry them back to civilization before going into a coma.

t_berium,
@t_berium@lemmy.world avatar

Seen them twice and still love their Unplugged gig.

slurpeesoforion,

When your primary motivations are to get laid, get rich, and become popular, in that order, kiss has it down to an art form.

Evil_Shrubbery,

True. Music isn’t the art form they were good at.

And yet are fairly widely recognisable for, em, music I guess that long tongue.

dumbass,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

KISS: when you like the look of black metal but can’t handle the sound of black metal.

Evil_Shrubbery,

… and for grown ups that want that there is baby metal.

/j

ImpossibilityBox,
Evil_Shrubbery,
kaffiene,

Kiss is not cool

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I beg to differ

drunkosaurus,

Late to the party, everything that needed to be said has been said. Still, let me add my voice to the choir: KISS has never been cool. KISS is the opposite of cool.

Phil_in_here,

This guy things KISS is hot!

Anticorp,

Stop spreading negative rumors about people on Lemmy!

Doublepluskirk,

And now we’ve got Ghost. It’s all cycles, man

rickyrigatoni,

Scooby doo chase music

loputozirak,
@loputozirak@lemmy.ml avatar

came to say the same, kiss isn’t metal and neither ghost

Adm_Drummer, (edited )

Their earlier works certainly are. If their early albums aren’t metal then Black Sabbath isn’t metal either.

Adm_Drummer,

They’re more in the realm of like… Stoner Rock, Psychedelic Doom and Smooth rock tbh with a large emphasis on Satanist Imagery and gospel. I fuck with that. More like Candlemass type Doom metal than like Stormkeep Doom Metal.

KISS on the other hand was like “Hey kids, we heard you like corpse paint, crazy guitar riffs and meaningful lyrics so we made the opposite for your mothers to listen to.”

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I was actually surprised when I first heard Ghost, it was so calm it could almost work as elevator music. You’d never expect that from their looks

Mongostein,

Paul Stanley KISS songs are cool. The rest, meh.

Off the top of my head, see: Detroit Rock City and Strutter.

MrBusiness,

Beth is pretty good, would never guess it being a KISS song.

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