Ordinary Object

karcatgirl-vantas:

the default way for things to taste is good. we know this because “tasty” means something tastes good. conversely, from the words “smelly” and “noisy” we can conclude that the default way for things to smell and sound is bad. interestingly there are no corresponding adjectives for the senses of sight and touch. the inescapable conclusion is that the most ordinary object possible is invisible and intangible, produces a hideous cacophony, smells terrible, but tastes delicious. and yet this description matches no object or phenomenon known to science or human experience. so what the fuck

skluug:

this is what ancient greek philosophy is like

Twinkletoes,

Farts must be delicious 🤤

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

OP out here acting like no one’s ever tongue-punched a fart-box.

BoBTFish,
BoBTFish avatar

At least in British English calling someone "a looker" has positive implications. Dunno if that applies to Americans.

damnthefilibuster,

“Ugly” and “Coarse” looking at this guy like… you think we’re a joke?

Leate_Wonceslace,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Screaming invisible cheese?

A gas being forced through a pipe that’s smelly yet sweet-tasting?

Deuces,

Evaporated durian juice

Shapillon,

You’re definitely describing a fart.

MR_GABARISE,

tastes delicious

Uhhhhh…

Shapillon,

I’m no good at remembering itemized lists ^^’

GentlemanLoser,

Why do we park on a driveway and drive on parkway?!

ReadyUser31,

Shipments go by land and cargo goes on ships…

jedi_hamster,

Basing life philosophy on English grammar…lol

meowMix2525,

It also works in German

Peppycito,

He’s totally describing chickens. Aside from the invisible part.

Anticorp,

When you say someone is a real looker, it means they’re attractive, so I’d say the default state for sight is appealing.

sic_1,

Good point. Also, there’s touchy feely so the most ordinary thing seems to be a loud, stinking and attractive creep with strawberry lipstick or something. 🤔

MBM,

Very sightly

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You also say they’re “hot,” which suggests that your eyes have the capability to gauge temperature.

Pirasp,

Which they do, by the means of black body radiation.

meowMix2525,

I’d say it’s those attributes that most compel us to notice that sense than the default for that sense. If something is smelly or noisy, you are often unable to avoid or ignore it, it takes over your senses. If something is tasty you are compelled to take more of it to placate your senses. A “looker” is something you can’t take your eyes off of. Whereas “touchy” is somebody that reactive, they are forced to notice and react to you.

Therefore the most sensually compelling object is something that smells strongly, is loud, tastes good, looks good, and reacts when you touch it.

Conversely, I believe “ordinary” is something you are not compelled to notice. So it would be the exact opposite. Smells nice, is quiet, tastes bad, looks neutral, and does not react to touch.

TheIllustrativeMan,

Therefore the most sensually compelling object is something that smells strongly, is loud, tastes good, looks good, and reacts when you touch it.

So a person?

Anticorp,

A well groomed, attractive person, with good hygiene.

Hackwork,

Ugly?

troglodytis,

Pretty

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty ugly.

troglodytis,

Unsightly, some might say

aeronmelon, (edited )

My thesis brings all the boys to the forum.

And they’re like, “This makes us a quorum.”

Damn right, this makes us a quorum.

I could teach them but I might just bore 'em.

Shardikprime,

Bro forgot disgusting

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

The default touch verb is bad, because nobody has ever used the word “touchy” to mean something good.

Emerald,

And “sightly” isn’t as common as “unsightly”, so the default sight verb is bad.

Daft_ish,

Smells bad, something you do not want to hear, do not want to touch and do not want to see. But tastes good. Don’t anyone say it’s shit or ill slap you.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Vomit?

Daft_ish,

So gross

Suspicious,

thats referencing either the phrase “touch a nerve” or the person in question touches things/people too much, it doesn’t factor into this discussion where it’s describing properties of an object rather than personality traits

kadu,

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    kamiheku,

    In Finnish we have separate words for good and bad smells

    Haju / haista = a (bad) smell / to smell (bad)
    Tuoksu / tuoksua = a (good) smell / to smell (good)

    deus,

    I was going to say this. It makes more sense in Portuguese because I can hardly imagine something smelly also being tasty.

    Stoney_Logica1,

    Durian

    dubyakay,

    I think it also tastes bad. Can’t think of having mixed some sweet fruit with pungent onions.

    z00s, (edited )

    This is very much “I am 14 and this is deep” territory.

    Adjectives describe. By using them, we are emphasising a quality of a given thing. That does not make it the “default state” (a problematic concept) of that object, even if it is a desirable quality.

    The “default state” of food is that it is edible, ie. that it can be eaten, as food is defined as that which is edible.

    there are no corresponding adjectives for the senses of sight and touch

    Visible. Tactile.

    Noisy

    Even by OPs logic, “noise” is not one of the senses. Audible is the correct word here.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_universals

    oxideseven,

    Exactly, and on top of that this only works in English and only in dialects where these words are used that way.

    VicentAdultman,

    In your philosophical knowledge, is there a need for a iam14andthisisdeep community? I pretty much think that the sum of a determined number of children make up of a real adult.

    dmention7,

    The punchline is the comment about how the OP is like Green philosophy.

    You’re picking apart the setup, not the punchline, and therefore being “that guy” who ruins the joke.

    Stop it.

    glimse,

    Why can the replier in the screenshot poke fun at the nonsensical nature of the first post but not us in the comments?

    How does that ruin the joke for you?

    dmention7,

    BECAUSE THE FIRST POST IS THE SETUP AND THE SECOND POST IS THE PUNCHLINE. THEY ARE BOTH PART OF THE JOKE. WE ARE NOT.

    GOSH.

    glimse,

    I’m sorry things get ruined for you so easily

    z00s,

    There is no joke bud. It’s just someone being dumb, and your defensive attitude suggests you didn’t understand that when you posted.

    dmention7,

    The Internet is serious business!

    Bud!

    z00s,

    Oh no I’m not as smart as I thought I was, quick better do some S A R C A S M !!!"l

    Eheran,

    What is your problem?

    dmention7,

    Today or in general?

    Taniwha420,

    … All the comments. They’re all missing the point that some Greek philosophy and classical rhetoric is indeed like this. This is where I’m pretty arm’s length with some schools of thought; it sometimes all seems constructed on some dubious first principles, or leaps of logic.

    Daft_ish,

    The podcast “unexplainable” did an episode like this. It’s called, “Does Garlic Break Magnets?” It’s kinda fun, honestly.

    Piecemakers3Dprints,
    @Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s right there in the first sentence. Even toddlers learn pretty damn fast that the “default” of all things is the furthest thing from “tasty”.

    z00s,

    It’s not a joke, it is indeed true that a lot of early Greek philosopy featured that style of logic, which you would know if you’d ever paid attention in school or actually read a book.

    Eg. Diogenes refuting Plato’s definition of a man.

    dmention7,

    Random internet commenter status: owned!

    z00s,

    Wow !!!

    You really suck ar covering up your pre-pubescent insecurities!

    glimse,

    Yeah I’m not sure how they concluded “there’s a word for this therefore it describes a default object”

    Man that car was speedy! Therefore the default speed is fast.

    Cryophilia,

    That really is more or less how Greek philosophy worked.

    glimse,

    The joke reply is great but the initial post not so much

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    The initial post was also a joke. The greatness will be relative.

    z00s,

    What’s supposed to be funny about it? Plain stupidity isn’t humour.

    Saltblue,

    I think of you and immediately get bored

    z00s,

    I don’t think about you at all.

    You still obviously have no idea what this post is about.

    Donkter,

    If you think the original poster was even remotely serious you need to take a break and expose yourself to… Idk, Conversation? More comedy? Media literacy lessons?

    If this was your attempt at comedy, drop the first sentence and be more belligerent in your indignation.

    z00s,

    Sure bud.

    Strawberry,

    Lmao it is very obviously facetious

    z00s,

    You probably shouldn’t use words that you don’t understand

    But go ahead, give us a close reading and explain where the humour lies.

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