“This is WELL beyond anything that Israel has done in the last few decades. Civilians killed during military actions in Gaza are not even remotely similar to this” why? they’re still dead.
Exactly. They’re dead. In the end it doesn’t even matter how they died, they’re just dead. Is one way worse? Yes, but the result is still horrific. They. Are. Dead. Noone can take it back. Does it make worse that crowd applauds the killing? Yes. But same goes for the Israeli crowd (like the one in Kneset) applauding killing terrorist together with their families and children…
The older I am the more disgusted of all the war pigs and warmongers I am. As a teen I scoffled at hippies and their beliefs, today I’d shake their hands. Fuck war, fuck killing, fuck war pigs.
It seems your issue isn’t that civilians are dead, but that you are actually paying attention and seeing it now that it’s happening to the colonizers. When it happens in Gaza you don’t pay attention to the images, you don’t empathize with the families destroyed.
But now there’s a relatively (to all that the IDF has done) small attack from Palestine and suddenly it’s front page news everywhere.
No this is what happens when terrorists overwhelm a border crossing and stsrt indiscriminately murdering civilians, then carry their mutilated bodies around as literal flags as they celebrate the murder in the street
I assume you’ve been just as outraged and outspoken about atrocities carried out by the IDF?
Is killing civilians fine as long as they don’t do it too “barbarically” for you?
Should Palestinians just lay back and continue to let the settlers take what little of their homeland they have left? They’re being genocided. They’re fighting back in whatever way they’re capable
the primary reason Hamas has political power and the political support to attack Israel in this manner is because Israel:
treats all Palestinians as second-class citizens and subjects them to a system of political, social, and economic apartheid
holds millions of Palestinians in squalid and inhuman conditions, and seizes the territory of millions more in the name of a violent settler project
subjects the vast majority of Palestinians to state-sponsored discrimination, terror, indiscriminate bombing, and political violence
leaves Palestinians no feasible democratic path to the rights they should have in their current state or the state of Israel, making armed struggle inevitable
you can and should condemn Hamas, but it is inarguable that Israel routinely does worse—overwhelmingly to people just as innocent as the ones Hamas is murdering—which is what makes attacks like this inevitable. you cannot do what Israel does and not expect the outcome to be violence, and it is incumbent on Israel, who holds all the actual power in this dynamic, to break the cycle and stop using every terrorist attack perpetuated against it as an excuse to roll innocent heads.
Cool so I respond to an antisemite saying that Israel refusing to supply power to a state that just declared war on it is punitive, and your response was to say it’s Israel’s fault.
i mean, yeah. Netanyahu is saying he’s going to basically reduce Gaza to rubble when 99% of Gazans are innocents and can’t leave Gaza because Israel is blockading them. Israeli bombs have killed far more innocents than actual terrorists in the Strip as seen in my citation. this is the exact behavior that allows Hamas to thrive. Israel, as a state, has the power to not do this and to seek more productive options—but does it anyways because it simply doesn’t care about the humanity of Palestinians and considers all of them acceptable collateral damage in killing Hamas members.
Name-calling (accusing someone of being an antisemite) is NOT nice. We have one rule, here at Beehaw, to be(e) nice. This is your only warning. Enjoy your seven day vacation from Beehaw.
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