SeaJ,

*Odesa

oshaboy,

Why doesn’t the title have a verb?

EatSleepBatheRepeat,

It doesn’t need one, it’s a caption

ndsvw,
@ndsvw@feddit.de avatar

Why not classifying kremlin as terror organization?

Tom_bishop,

Too chicken shit to do that since its russia. They only do that to small nation they can bully around. If its another superpower, they engage in proxy war and cower behind NATO or other nation such ukraine/hong kong.

voidMainVoid,

Well, that’s the funny thing. If a nation does it, it isn’t considered “terrorism”. If you open that door, then the US gets implicated, too, because they’ve also been involved in terrorist activities. So, it serves US interests to keep the definition narrowly defined to non-state actors.

rDrDr,

The US bombed every cathedral in Germany worse than this. This is what happens in war. You should devote your energy to stopping wars, not trying to get them to be “nicer”. War will never be nice.

43percentburnt,

@rDrDr @ndsvw and how does that make this wrong?

TheBlue22,

Ah yes, a completely fucking irrelevant comparison.

Germany was under NAZI RULE. Actively ongoing a genocide, killing tens of thousands every single day.

There were no precision weapons. It was the 1940s you dumbass.

If US or UK was in a war today, not one heritage site would be touched. You know why? Because we have precision weapons to hit the enemy.

Get the fuck out of here with these bitch ass excuses trying your hardest to suck putins dick.

sol,

Because then you would have to classify every state in the world with an army as one

TheBlue22,

Can we just nuke them already. There is no need for Russia in a civilised world

spark947,

Hope your joking, go watch oppenheimer.

damnYouSun,

The risk is Russia also has nukes and we don’t 100% know that the oligarchs haven’t stolen all of the uranium cores.

sol,

Can we just get rid of TheBlue22 already. There is no need for people calling for nukes in a civilised world

TheBlue22,

Civilised… right

Fer24,

Ereasing a culture huh?, This reminds a certain person

sol,

It reminds me of the guys saying we should nuke russia

Karnickel,

The amount of downvotes on your comment is alarming.

sol,

The world is at war, propaganda is full rampant

riodoro1,

Shit. Maybe we should

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Just one? Off the top of my head there’s Hitler, Mao, Taliban if you don’t want to limit to just individuals, Turkey in 1960s, CCP with what they’re doing to Uyghurs.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Very sad. I have been to Odessa often before the 2022 war, and the city was spared major attacks for so long. But I guess that’s over now :(

Fer24,

Lucky person, I haven’t see Odessa

sheilzy,

Before the Russian invasion, I’d always thought Ukraine was a beautiful country. Never been to either country, while I did notice similarities in the architecture and culture, they still had distinct enough flourishes that set them apart. Really, destroying holy sites and places of worship is a very dirty move in warfare. Doing such destroys morale. This cathedral looks like an immaculate place to visit while it was in tact. I hope places like it can be restored soon.

Lenins2ndCat,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t really see how this strategically advances any goals. I’m willing to bet it’s a mistake by one side or the other rather than any intent. The target has no value or purpose and makes no sense. Maybe as terror or something but ehhhh

Are there any images of the missile debris floating around the various telegrams? Would be interested in seeing exactly what weapon it was.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Destroying the Ukrainian culture could be one as Poutine’s propaganda is saying that Ukraine is not a real country with a real history but a part of Russia that needs to be recovered.

Lenins2ndCat,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

Nah that makes no sense mate.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

What doesn’t make sense to you?

Lenins2ndCat,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

Mainly the part where an attack intended to destroy the building would be very easy but this is just mild damage. I mean that in the sense of it not being catastrophic rather than implying that this occurring to a religious building isn’t upsetting, it’s not a pleasant thing. The point being that when they intend to actually blow stuff up there’s usually very little left over of the targets, which leads me to believe this wasn’t the target.

Which is why I’m interested in seeing what hit it. I’m surprised there are no photos of the missile debris so far, there are in almost every single other attack as it’s the information that validates a lot of information for international eyes.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

They could also just use it as a symbol without willing to use more ammunition for a non strategic target.

Lenins2ndCat,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

They aren’t using it as a symbol though, blowing up a religious building is not exactly a move that would be popular among russians. Which is why they’re denying that it was Russian munitions and trying to claim that it was Ukrainian anti-air missiles falling back on buildings after trying to shoot down other things. To use it as a symbol you kinda have to say it was you.

What this will become however is a symbol of reconstruction for Ukraine, which is not at all beneficial to Russia’s strategic interests. Hence why I lean to it being a mistake of some sort. Given the accuracy their missiles have though that’s hard to justify as well, unless it’s not actually the main payload of a missile and is instead one of the earlier stages that gets split, like the fuel tubes sections. This is why actually seeing the missile debris is useful, you can figure out whether it was the target or not based on whether it’s the payload section or some other part of the missile.

Llewellyn,
@Llewellyn@lemmy.ml avatar

Building is nothing. Human lives is everything. Even one death is more than enough for our bloody “leader” to rot in hell.
Sincerely yours, Russian fellow.

Mojojojo1993,

Well said

SaddieTheMad,
@SaddieTheMad@lemmy.world avatar

You are right about that. I would add that non-human lives are also valuable. I especially believe animal suffering is terrible, ours and others. We are enough to help humankind and also repair injustices to and help other beings.

What I wanted to comment is that I felt this image intensely because it is kind of symbolic. It represents the beauty we are capable of, the way we can be brought together by beliefs and dreams, all destroyed by greediness, selfishness, and unnecessary violence. It is tragic. It is not the value of the building itself, which is debatable, but this I explained.

Sorry if my English is weird.

rkk,
@rkk@lemmy.world avatar

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  • kbity,
    kbity avatar

    Shocking but sadly unsurprising acts of cultural vandalism on the part of a regime with no respect for anyone or anything. Putin belongs in the Hague.

    Th4tGuyII,
    Th4tGuyII avatar

    If the world ever goes to war on Russia, let this be a reminder of how low the bar stands when we're shoving their own medicine down their throats

    Taktikek,

    They dont make that link. They have been using cluster ammo for 18 months now but cry since Ukraine has started to use it as well. Pathetic little mindset these people have.

    MidwestMayonaiseSalad,

    The cluster munition attack with the highest known civilian casualties occurred on April 8, 2022, when Russia launched a Tochka-U ballistic missile equipped with a cluster munition warhead at a crowded train station in the eastern city of Kramatorsk as hundreds of people were trying to leave the area. A detailed Human Rights Watch investigation found that the attack killed at least 58 civilians and injured over 100 others.

    Barbaric

    mikkL,

    The Kremlin really do everything in their power to be as evil as possible. I know this is ‘just’ a building and that thousands have lost their lives, including one more civilian this time, but why bomb a UNESCO Heritage Site?…

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

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  • girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.world avatar

    Source? Or you think posting a screenshot is good enough?

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Link from a war with fake news channel:

    t.me/warfakes/16085?single

    notintheface,

    They want to deliberately erase Ukrainian culture and replace it with their own.

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

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  • de_lancre,

    Where you even find bullshit like this? In russian propaganda media?

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

    There are several very clear videos available of AA rocket starting off and then falling from yesterday

    XbSuper,

    Then show us with a link.

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar
    gsfraley,

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  • buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Im sorry, but I dont support nazis

    Ignacio,

    Then stop being a nazi. Problem solved.

    Crampon,

    Guy has vacuum for brain.

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

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  • bernieecclestoned,

    What AA system can do this?

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

    There is a video available but western media won’t post it and unfortunately I can’t post it in Lemmy I dont think. Its 100% Ukrainian AA works

    bernieecclestoned,

    So, either one of the 19 missiles that Russia fired at a civilian population, or Ukrainian defending itself from one of the 19 missiles that Russia fired, resulted in civilian damage from the missiles that Russia fired.

    Either way, it’s as a direct result of Russia firing missiles at Odessa.

    Do you take milk with your Russian propaganda?

    FightMilk,

    “Western media won’t post it” literally always means “I believe Russian propaganda videos”

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.world avatar

    Do you have proof of that or are you just pissing into the wind?

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar
    TigrisMorte,

    Which was fired because?

    riodoro1,

    Its funny because their cultures and heritage are so intertwined its pretty much the same.

    Well except for russia being devoid of any culture anymore. Its a slimy, gray, smelly blob of sad.

    awwwyissss,

    So in just the last week the Kremlin terrorists have attacked food, hospital sites, and an apartment building.

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

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  • pozbo,
    @pozbo@lemmy.world avatar

    No, we only trust screenshots posted on open-enrolled social media by nameless weirdos with cartoon character profile pictures and no credentials.

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Haha. Dude its not my fault that u have censored every other media outlet in US.

    There are thousands of similar debunked stories from Ukraine that us media won’t ever publish because of the official stance.

    Dont blame me for your censorship.

    GentlemanLoser,

    Can you share one from a source you trust?

    robmexx,
    @robmexx@lemmy.world avatar

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  • awwwyissss,

    Yeah, I’m disappointed they already found the fediverse

    adude007,

    Pathetic

    buzz,
    @buzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Dont fall for fake news, Ukrainian AA did this.

    t.me/warfakes/16085?single

    mayo,
    @mayo@lemmy.world avatar

    Damn dude how many times are you going to post in this thread. There are places you would feel more at home. You will get the same response here every time. Try 4chan, voat, truth social, reddit, or one of the defederated right wing communities.

    positiveWHAT,

    Russia is such a bucket-crab.

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