HellAwaits,

Looking forward to the virtue-signaling dipshits that spammed ‘sound of freedom’ everyone online to denounce this guy ANY SECOND NOW

ObviouslyNotBanana,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

No way!

Ulrich_the_Old,

Way!!!

SneedsFeednSeed,

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law

Poob,

Since I’m not on the jury, I’m not obligated to follow this idea

yanyuan,

Especially since there is few public information so far. From the article:

According to court records, the alleged kidnapping incident took place on July 21 but included few other details.

[…] Marta’s attorney told E! News that “the charges are unfounded.”

“Mr. Marta had nothing to do with custodial kidnapping,” Scott Rosenblum told the outlet. “He was essentially a landlord.”

Of course I don’t just believe the lawyer’s version either. However I don’t have enough information to scream “murder!”.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So I take it you don’t think OJ Simpson killed his ex-wife and her boyfriend.

Jaybob32,

This comment should not be down voted. Even if you or I disagree with the person’s politics. This should be the default in any court. I didn’t read the article at first either just the comments. When I did read it, it seems very much click bait. They buried the lawyer’s quote way down in the middle of the article and only one line. No follow up on the actual situation and harped some more on Qanon. I personally despise people who continue Qanon conspiracies, but the rest of us have to be better.

quazar,

I haven’t seen the film or heard much about it, only seen a preview before gaurdians but

How is this film QAnon-adjacent?

(and how is it that anti-pedophilia is now only a right wing thing when the church has been fucking children for decades? dont let em have it…)

Blamemeta,

Well you see, its not. The left just wants it to be, so they say that it is anyways. Its called lying.

Caitlynn,

This whole anti pedophilia thing coming from the right is just projection. They assume everyone else is one because they are.

SpezBroughtMeHere,

So is your take that child trafficking isn’t a thing or it’s just not something that should be worried about?

Mongostein,

Being anti-peaodophelia is a good thing. However, accusing other people of doing the things you’re doing is a bad thing.

new_acct_who_dis,

Being purposely obtuse is exhausting, makes you look like an idiot, doesn’t help make your point, and isn’t nearly as effective here as it is on all the other platforms.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

It’s that the right are the ones fucking kids, but you know that.

zaph,

They’re saying the right need to leave trans people and drag queens alone because they’re far from the problem when it comes to pedophilia and trafficking.

HankMardukas,

“You know how I know you’re gay? Only a gay dude would assume that everyone else is naturally gay.”

BadRS,

If you think being gay is a choice because you chose not to be gay, i have news for you.

akintudne,
@akintudne@reddthat.com avatar

It’s not. The media keeps wanting to make it so. There’s nothing Qanon about it. Jim Caviezel is a proponent of Qanon conspiracies, and that’s its only connection.

I know she can be “controversial” here, but Shoe0nHead did a video on it.

VindictiveJudge,

A lot of the cast and crew and people who endorsed the movie are very into the whole Qanon thing, including Tim Ballard, the real guy the movie is about. The movie itself doesn’t actually promote any of that, though, (or at least, not that I could tell) and a good chunk is based on a real sting operation. There’s a lot of fiction, as is the case with most ‘based on a true story’ movies, though. And I haven’t checked, but I’m kind of suspicious of the charity they encourage you to donate to during the credits.

realcaseyrollins,

Q-anon adjacent film

lol

Where's the word count for how many times Qanon is mentioned in this conspiracy theory laced film?

CharlestonChewbacca,

Probably more to do with this guy being a QAnon nut.

new_acct_who_dis,

Q-anon adjacent film

adjacent

hauntology,

What are you trying to say? If they don’t say the magic letter Q then it has nothing to with conspiracy nonsense? They are trying to be subtle. It didn’t work, but they tried.

thantik, (edited )

According to the article, his lawyer states he was just essentially the landlord where a custodial dispute happened. So it sounds like something adjacent to the crime, such as lying to one of the parents about having seen the kid or something. Honestly, my parents got in custodial disputes, and I’ve even had one myself - I was so distraught over it that my emotions almost landed me in a similar situation. Luckily everything resolved itself (my wife thought I was having an affair due to her “friend” trying to convince her of such), but custodial disputes are not anywhere near ‘child sex trafficking’ levels of evil here…

It’s also not surprising at all that none of the comments thus far have shown any level of critical thought about the article either…

Pandantic, (edited )
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

This! Read the article, guys! I hate QAnon as much as the rest but this guy was a “essentially a landlord” in a custody battle and, unless new facts come to light, it appears his part isn’t nearly as heinous as this clickbait title wants you to believe!

atomdmac,

It makes me sad yo see this down voted with so little actual engagement with the content. Come on, Lemmy, you’re better than that!

thantik,

I’ve learned that they really aren’t. I have seen this everywhere all week. All of the extremists of reddit seem to be the ones who hopped over, and they’re just as bad as qtards. Everyone is a troll, everyone is a bad faith actor to them, etc. Pretty much decided at this point that it’s just not worth attempting to engage with people online at all any more.

enki,

You really stretched that one line into an entire hypothetical defense for a guy, while there’s literally zero evidence of any of that presented in the article.

Bad troll.

thantik,

Did you miss this line?

“Mr. Marta had nothing to do with custodial kidnapping,” Scott Rosenblum told the outlet. “He was essentially a landlord.”

With only that to go on…there’s some level of guessing at what that even means. You can only try and figure it out on hypothetical application.

These places are DYING to put the words “Qanon”, “sex trafficking”, “sound of freedom” into an article for SEO purposes. You should start being critical of your sources rather than just taking things for face value.

Haibane,

He’s a lawyer. It’s his entire job to lie and get his client off the charges. Do you actually believe a word that comes out of a defense lawyers mouth?

thantik,

My wife got arrested for DUI when she was having a brain bleed and needed to be taken to a hospital, not a jail…but pigs are gonna be pigs, and a defense lawyer is the one who got it taken care of, so yes. Immediately jumping to “there’s a defense lawyer, you can’t believe him!”…is…kind of stupid. You know people get arrested, sued, etc for all sorts of things that aren’t true right?

Her defense lawyer ended up being a piece of shit in the end, sure – but we have a justice system for a reason ya know.

Lifecoach5000,

Well we are on the internet you know?

quazar,

Sir, I am from reddit - It’s bold of you to assume i read the article

thantik,

I wasn’t gonna read the article either tbh; but I embarrassed myself by spouting untrue information based off of the title of an article and being corrected publicly a few months ago so I’m trying to be better about making sure the information I “know” is correct.

Chozo,
Chozo avatar

Once again, the call comes from inside the house.

buckykat,

Every right wing accusation is a confession

ChihuahuaOfDoom,

Anyone surprised?

irkli,

Why, a complete coincidence I AM SURE. uhuh

nicemarmot,

They had a pay it forward program to buy others tickets so that they could see it to spread the message. It’s a great marketing strategy for the studio to have an inflated sense of how important the movie is.

LordOfTheChia,

While the title of the story is interesting, this tidbit was buried further down:

Sound of Freedom" surprised critics by smashing box office projections, grossing more than $150 million so far. The film had a $14.5 million budget. Social media users have suggested that the film is using “astroturfing,” a practice of buying up hundreds of tickets to make theaters appear sold out, to inflate its success.

Several TikToks have gone viral showing “Sound of Freedom” theaters that were supposedly sold out completely empty once the movie begins.

buckykat,

They’re also asking people who do see it to “donate” an extra ticket’s worth of money to them to supposedly allow someone else to see it. The grift never ends.

Earthwormjim91,

That’s how a ton of politicians “NYT best sellers” books are done. They’ll use campaign funds to buy up a ton of books and then give them out for free at rallies and shit.

Surreal,

What a waste of paper

Debeli_Perun,

But they also put a dagger next to it to denote a bulk sale.

heavy.com/…/triggered-ny-times-bestseller-dagger-…

Earthwormjim91,

They only started doing that within the last 5-10 years iirc though

And the list isn’t purely sales numbers anyway as they admitted in the 80s in a legal case. It isn’t mathematically objective but rather done on a subjective editorial scale. They choose which books to have on a subjective scale that doesn’t even have to take sales into account.

CeruleanRuin,
@CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world avatar

Surprised that only one of them has been rooted out so far. The whole movement is projection and deflection. There’s a serious problem of child abuse in right wing culture that they’re not willing to taking about.

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