ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Health officials maintain — and experts agree — that pasteurized milk is safe to drink. The FDA detected small pieces of the virus in milk, not live, infectious virus.

“Right now, all indication is that pasteurization is effective,” said Dr. Andrew Bowman, a veterinary epidemiologist at Ohio State University.

Pasteurization doing its job.

aeronmelon,

Louis Pasteur wasn’t messing around.

motor_spirit,

and then there was Leroy Brown

thisbenzingring,

All those downtown ladies call him “Treetop Lover”

All the men just call him “Sir”

b3an,
@b3an@lemmy.world avatar

Meaner than a junkyard dog?

Spaghetti_Hitchens, (edited )

I hear that Louis Pasteur is working on a vaccine that will obliterate anthrax once and for all.

Silverseren,

Yeah, any DNA or RNA in there is going to be completely denatured because of the pasteurization. But that doesn't mean the physical components of the genes just goes away. It is made ineffective and harmless, but it serves as a useful measure on how many cows are infected.

fmstrat,

But the cheese, the poor poor cheese.

tal, (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

The virus, a strain of bird flu called H5N1, is concerning to public health officials because of its high fatality rate: More than half of the people who have contracted the illness have died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There’s a certain crowd of people who are absolutely determined to consume raw milk. You can’t get it across state lines, because the FDA bans it, but some states permit it internally.

This might cause some states to stop that.

en.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_raw_milk_debate

Especially if the raw milk fans catch it and then start spreading it to other people.

EDIT: Looks like the FDA has commented on it.

www.aphis.usda.gov/sites/…/hpai-dairy-faqs.pdf

Could the consumption of raw milk from these states impact human health?

FDA’s longstanding position is that unpasteurized, raw milk can harbor dangerous microorganisms that can pose serious health risks to consumers, and FDA is reminding consumers of the risks associated with raw milk consumption in light of the H5N1 detections.

frickineh,

The raw milk people are wild to me, because raw milk is disgusting even without the bird flu, and they’re so committed to it. The more people point out that it’s gross and unsafe, the more they want it. Drinking pus to own the libs, I guess?

Melkath,

"Milk is nothing but mucus. Mucus mucus mucus. That's all." - Gary Busey

https://youtu.be/ArZhXE9GX3I?si=DhKSOGU2lwxS6WJx&t=234

Krauerking,

I will say I’m a huge fan of having it around for cooking.

It think its as good or better than pasteurized in a sauce, and then when it starts to sour, the coolest thing is I can separate it and turn the cream into butter and get buttermilk leftover.
I can then keep using both for cooking and baking.

I think raw milk has a place with understanding of what you are buying, but I don’t know if other people are like me and actually just gulping it down.

grue,

I was going to express a similar sentiment: having the milk be unpasteurized can be an important difference when it’s a base ingredient that’s being further processed (e.g. to make fancy French-style cheese or something), but you’re not really supposed to just straight-up drink the stuff.

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

There’s a certain crowd of people who are absolutely determined to consume raw milk. You can’t get it across state lines, because the FDA bans it, but some states permit it.

My state’s dumbass legislators, ladies and gentlemen: mashable.com/article/raw-milk-sick-lawmakers

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

While McGeehan admitted that there were “some other colleagues that have similar symptoms that I’ve been experiencing,” he doesn’t think that milk is the cause. And even if it was the cause, McGeehan doesn’t regret voting for the bill.

“There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law,” he said.

That does seem kind of tautological.

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

You can tell because of the way it is

KevonLooney,

They are using “rule of law” to mean “whatever I want”. Rest assured that if their child was sickened, they would sue immediately. And probably blame trans immigrants or something.

Bassman1805,

Please be the story of the congressfolk that legalized raw milk, celebrated by drinking raw milk, and all got sick as a result…

Fuck yeah.

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

You got it! lol

tal, (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

If Cleetus McNumbnuts becomes Patient Zero in another global pandemic, this time with a mortality rate of over 50%, it won’t be something to cheer about.

www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/inhumans.htm

Wear recommended personal protective equipment (PPE) when working directly or closely with sick or dead animals, animal feces, litter, raw milk, and other materials that might have the virus.

Wash hands with soap and water, then put on PPE in this order:

  1. Fluid-resistant overalls.
  2. Waterproof apron, if needed for job task.
  3. NIOSH-approved respirator
  4. Properly-fitted unvented or indirectly-vented safety goggles or face shield
  5. Head cover or hair cover.
  6. Gloves
  7. Boots

Avoid touching your eyes, mouth, or nose after touching any contaminated material.

Meanwhile, Cleetus has purchased his jug of active virus and is happily drinking it.

EDIT: Probably more like Cleetus giving said jug to his kids.

www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/…/rawmilk-outbreaks.html

Among illnesses linked to unpasteurized milk that occurred from 2013 through 2018, 48% (325) were among people aged 0–19 years.

Letstakealook,

This bit from the article is amazing:

“There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law,” he said.

Silverseren,

It should be noted that this is just a method to determine the amount of infected cows. The milk itself isn't a threat to anyone. Virus fragments in themselves can't do anything, they're just a sign of the original cow problem.

Call out anyone that tries to fearmonger about the milk being dangerous.

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

The bigger concern, that not many people are taking about, is wildlife. This bird flu is spreading out in the wild and has been taking out all sorts of endangered birds and mammals in mass quantities.

And if something jumps into humans, it’s more likely to happen from the massive spread happening in local wildlife.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

No more tongue when kissing pigeons. Got it.

ninekeysdown,
@ninekeysdown@lemmy.world avatar

That tumescence cloaca that really does it for you huh?

protist,

From what I’ve read it doesn’t seem to be a particularly severe disease for cows anyway. The hubbub is mostly about the potential for farm and dairy workers to catch it directly from a cow, which still seems like an incredibly rare occurrence

_wizard,
@_wizard@lemmy.world avatar

Seems to hit cats a bit hard. Not that you should be feeding them milk anyways.

www.cdc.gov/…/veterinarians-handling-cats.htm

lazynooblet,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

The milk isn’t contagious anyway

glitchy_nobody,

Most cats are lactose intolerant and milk can make them sick because of that.

WhyDoYouPersist,

Yeah gotta nip that in the bud. Although people stepping away from buying dairy milk wouldn’t be so bad I guess.

DemBoSain,
@DemBoSain@midwest.social avatar

Hooray for lactose intolerance!

^yay^

WhyDoYouPersist,

Fun fact: it’s estimated that 68% of worldwide human adults are lactose intolerant.

Fedizen,

One of the health orgs did note raw milk may pose a risk.

Emma_Gold_Man,

But raw milk is also not allowed to be sold for human consumption.

gbuttersnaps,

It is some places, in the US it varies state by state.

Source: milk.procon.org/raw-milk-laws-state-by-state/

ninekeysdown,
@ninekeysdown@lemmy.world avatar

There’s still people using livestock dewormer as a cure all when they can’t get their doc to write a script… so not drinking raw milk is just a libtard “suggestion” to them or the person saying it is just “in the pocket of big dairy” …

weee!!! oh what a fun & exciting dystopia we’re in!! /s

intensely_human, (edited )

You talking about Ivermectin? Do you know that’s been prescribed hundreds of millions of times as human medicine before the pandemic?

That’s like calling popcorn “livestock feed”.

edit: It’s a serious question. Did you know that or not? If it’s true and you didn’t know it, what does that imply about your information sources?

ninekeysdown,
@ninekeysdown@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah it’s widely considered the most important medicine in human history. It’s amazing for what it does when used for what it should be!!

werefreeatlast,

OCP! Original Cow Problems! I figured out RoboCop finally!

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Dead or alive, you’re drinking my milkshake!

iiGxC,

end animal agriculture already

streetfestival,
@streetfestival@lemmy.ca avatar

Seems like bird flu in dairy herd cows is spreading quickly

rockSlayer,

NBC needs to update their stock image of milk. It’s expired

skuzz,

Comcast is too busy overcharging for mediocre broadband to care about their tv channels stock art. (They own NBC. Which makes total sense, right?)

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Puts hair on your chest, boy!

ninekeysdown,
@ninekeysdown@lemmy.world avatar

Yee-Haw?

Rhaedas,

Concerning infrastructure investment, we should really put a lot into waste measurement everywhere for issues that affect health. It's the best alarm for growing problems at a large scale sampling that can't be fudged or missed. Many areas have all but stopped constant monitoring because of budget.

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