MrNesser,

I love Americas commitment to free speech and the right to protest until it becomes inconvenient

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

It’s inconvenient to the people in charge

Daft_ish, (edited )

I’d argue effective protest should be met with resistance. How else would it be civil disobedience if you werent disobeying anyone?

Think of Charlottesville. Now that was not a protest where I appreciated the message but can you name any of the 1000 white nationalist marches since?

The difference being the counter protests brought more attention to the movement.

Think of the pussy hat protests.

Huge protests but pretty unremarkable in retrospect. Yes they followed the rules and got permitting etc. etc. At the end of the day though they went home and settled in.

Jan 6th is another example.

BLM was all encompassing at the time of its inception. The timing on that whole movement was very unfortunate. The end of the day people saw them as riots and not protests. Which was completely the media’s fault.

Philharmonic3,

Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me.

RizzRustbolt,

Plead with the Machine for to See Reason.

john89,

You know, this is exactly why the West hates terrorism.

It works, but doesn’t cost a ton of money.

If it wasn’t for Hamas attacking Israel, none of these people would care about the continued oppression of Palestinians.

Fuck zionists.

TokenBoomer,

Isn’t he a Democrat? Why would he say that?

stoly,

He used to be police. “Law and order” democrats are always idiots.

3volver,

The police protect the money first and foremost.

Pilferjinx,

They’re the enforcers of the rich. As it always was.

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

“”" Within minutes of the assault on the building, Columbia University officials said they had no choice but to request police intervention.

“We regret that protesters have chosen to escalate the situation through their actions,” “”"

The Columbia administration forgetting they have nothing without the students. One person gets yelled at and they clutch their pearls and call the bastards in to beat and arrest peaceful protesters. They are escalating things, not the students.

Students asking to expunge arrests related to these protests should be putting on their resume they are willing to stand up for their rights and the rights of others without a voice. The university and cops are the ones who should be embarrassed and ashamed.

Son_of_dad,

I don’t understand the expungement of records thing. You want to protest against the fascist, capitalist system, but you still want your record clean cause once you’re out of school, you won’t be able to get a corporate job and join the capitalists with a dirty record?

Protesters and hippies used to I use their record as a badge of honor, now people wanna weekend protest, but have their 9-5 image unaffected

Schmoo,

People have to make a living.

Son_of_dad,

Never gonna change the world unless you want to actually change and not play along with the system

Schmoo,

What would you suggest people do, willingly become homeless just so they can say they “didn’t play along?” What are you doing.

I understand wanting to break free of the system, that’s something I’m working towards myself, but you have to actually be realistic. If you want to make it to shore you still have to keep paddling to keep your head above water.

Son_of_dad,

What am I doing? I’m playing along. Once you guys want to stop playing and actually taking heads and making the street run red, I’m there! God I’m just waiting for it.

But going on the street with a sign on a Saturday and blocking roads isn’t doing shit, if anything it’s making more people hate you and your cause.

You guys want to actually do something? I’ll build the Gallows, come on, anytime you’re ready.

Schmoo,

If these protests aren’t doing shit then why is the police state coming down so hard on them recently?

Son_of_dad,

You haven’t been paying attention if you think police don’t come down on other protesters. You think only pro Palestine protesters get beaten, harassed, arrested and fucked over in America?

Schmoo,

No I certainly don’t. These protests are not unique in how successful they are at challenging the status quo. The police state is also very effective at suppressing them, which is precisely why they are important. It’s a constant push and pull, we gain ground and we lose it, but if people didn’t protest at all we would only lose it.

Your insistence on sitting on your ass and waiting for violent revolution while whinging about protestors not doing anything is lazy and cowardly.

The frontier of resistance is everywhere, and even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward. The day will come when all these protests and demonstrations, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the status quo’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.

That last paragraph was paraphrased from Andor, because it’s a simple enough concept that even a Disney show gets it.

sailingbythelee,

The hard core peaceful hippies did become homeless, so they learned how to farm and live communally and sustainably. Some moved to Canada.

DreamDrifter,

More than that - you’re supposed to fight it in court. Protesting doesn’t do shit, you have to use the system against itself

Duamerthrax,

but you still want your record clean cause once you’re out of school, you won’t be able to get a corporate job

That’s an assumption you’ve made. Sounds more like protesters don’t want to be charge with a crime that they do not believe that they committed. Unless you consider protesting itself a crime.

NatakuNox,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

As if this will stop protests?! Those in charge have never read a history book.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if Mayor Cop would say the same thing about a police union protest?

HurlingDurling,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Or a Neo Nazi / white supremacist protest

Passerby6497,

Did you need to repeat what they said?

HurlingDurling,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, you are correct. My bad

Alto,
Alto avatar

Yet people still think we don't live in a police state.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Feeling free yet?

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

The kids are alright

firadin,

Columbia journalism students are reporting live: …columbia.edu/…/online-streaming-and-running#

ShepherdPie,

“404 not found”

Interesting.

BertramDitore,
@BertramDitore@lemmy.world avatar

From the WKCR website:

Our website is experiencing intermittent outages due to an excess of connections (over 13k). The best way to listen to WKCR is by tuning in on FM radio at 89.9 if you’re in the New York Metro area.

The second best way is to click this link: wkcr.streamguys1.com/live.m3u. This link will download a file that will enable you to listen to our live broadcast on your device’s default media player (i.e. your computer’s Music app).

Schmoo,

I’m not sure what I was expecting, but it wasn’t freestyle jazz.

TropicalDingdong,

If you are in NY you should get out there now.

disguy_ovahea,

The NYPD’s third favorite thing after playing Candy Crush on the job and harassing minorities is escalating protestors into violence. Keep a cool head if you’re out there!

MedicPigBabySaver,

Hold strong!

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