Reddit has permanently suspended my account for supporting Lemmy.

I have been supporting Lemmy recently a lot and made posts about Lemmy that got big reach. Today, sadly the reddit account through which, I moderated a lot of subs and spent time on, comes to an end. The reason was because I spammed according to reddit, but the reality is that they have censored me because I was hurting Reddit.

Asking multiple third-party app devs consider Lemmy + Made the same post here as well

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/89d666d7-8fca-40eb-b19b-81940a8e6bcb.png

I never thought this would happen, not that I didn't completely expect it (but maybe not this soon and sudden), after all Reddit is known for censorship, and the fact that Reddit admins have absolute power over this website makes this believable. But part of me, misses that reddit account, it has been special to me, as I've spent countless of hours spending my personal time to moderate and improve communities that helped Reddit thrive. I moderated as many subs as over 25, many of them had atleast over 1k people, some as many as 200k if not more.

Before this happened, suspiciously, they banned r/LemmyMigration today early morning,

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/45425a09-66ca-4e7c-9979-42041262614c.jpeg

it remained banned for a few hours and returned back to normal (not weird at all). I thought that was a mistake, as the sub was back to normal unbanned, but it seems like the Reddit admins realized if they banned my sub, that would prove how they censor it, it can work against them. Now, it seems like they have realized that bringing my account down would be more effective, and stop me from possibly sharing how they censored my sub on other subs for example.

It's a shame, and part of me is sad, everything I worked hard for was taken away by them all of a sudden. I wanted to bring some of my communities here, now everything is gone, and it feels more like starting from scratch (Or discuss with mods I am still in contact with, and get help to bring communities I was planning on bring here, but it certainly makes things harder, not giving up anyways, especially not after this).

BTW I have filled an appeal, but I don't expect this to be reversed, this was planned by the Reddit admins and all they have to do is ignore my appeal, there is nothing more I can do to get my account back, and they just got rid of someone who was pinpointing some of their biggest flaws and potentially dangering their platform's dominance in the "aggregation and discussion platforms" market.

A note to all refugees and ex-redditors here, or those who are planning to join Lemmy - See the power a centralized corporation like Reddit holds. With a decentralized alternative like Lemmy, you can host your own instance or join another one if you get censored, with lemmy, we can put more power back in the hands of the people.

I don't have much else to say, moving on I will have to work with mods left that I do know through external platforms like Discord and try to bring some communities here. I hope this does not happen to any other moderator who have spend countless of hours helping Reddit in-directly like I did, somehow escaping such a suspension.

EDIT: There is some controversy in the comments if I actually spammed, I don't think I spammed at all, I only made a post on r/ApolloApp, it became a hit so I cross-posted it to other third-party app subs, just so that it can hopefully reach out to the respective developers for them to possibly consider Lemmy in the wake of new reddit API changes.

I was also certainly not the only one mentioning alternatives like Lemmy on the r/Apolloapp or any other third-party app sub, in-fact many people were mentioning alternatives, though I was banned, also my community r/LemmyMigration as mentioned above was called spam (and was temporarily banned, but was weirdly brought back up just to put my account down later today afternoon) when it only had 2 posts today morning. To me, "spam" seems like it is only used as a cover up by Reddit, the real reason is that my posts, just like r/LemmyMigration, was about Lemmy, a competition to Reddit.

Also if it was really spam, as soon as I cross-posted my post from r/apolloapp to the other subs, the mods would have removed it well before they got a lot of attention, why didn't they?

EDIT 2: A user called @danke has been spreading misinformation about me in the comments:

Just as you did on your newly created reddit alt, you’re painting this lie that you were banned for your tiny no-name subreddit and not for spamming this garbage on 11 different mobile app subreddits in quick succession. It’s truly like clockwork for sitebanned users to lie and omit these massive details.

This is a blatant lie, I mentioned about the cross-posts right IN THIS post: "Asking multiple third-party app devs consider Lemmy + Made the same post here as well"

As you can see, I made the post right here and on reddit, i never missed any details.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

This is showing that they know about Lemmy, which to a huge corporation like that is huge. It means they're starting to take it seriously.

Good. Let them sweat.

Sorry you had your account taken away because of it. I'll use my throwaways now to evangelize it.

dessalines,

They absolutely know about us, probably from a long time ago, but especially in this past week, with lemmy getting posted everywhere.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

They've done an amazing job at burning their community. They think 3rd party apps are only used by super nerds (or at least many of the people I've talked to do), but I think they forgot who provides most of the content.

Well, bots now, but good content usually came from the super nerds

Andreas, (edited )
@Andreas@feddit.dk avatar

I have a feeling that if you really crunch Reddit's numbers, the content that provides the most engagement and revenue is NSFW content. Reddit is one of the only large social media websites that allows NSFW and the subreddit system makes it much easier to categorize and find content than Twitter, so there are a massive number of invisible users who do not use the site for anything except NSFW, which is also why it's specifically targeted in the new API policy. Long-term, technically knowledgeable users who produce high-quality content are not nearly as financially exploitable as the mass of users who use Reddit as a NSFW directory and who have no alternative to migrate to.

Plus, the majority of active Reddit users are non-technical "normies" who joined Reddit after hearing about it from trends like the GameStop stock. Those users use the official app and have no idea what an API is, so they don't care and will continue to use Reddit.

dessalines,

Sometimes I do get a bit doomerist about it. If reddit is to be believed, they claim something like < 20% of people use old.reddit, or mobile apps. That seems incredibly low to me, but I must admit most of the people who I encounter IRL that use reddit don't know about old reddit, RES, or other apps.

Archit,

You'd be surprised. For example, on r/electricvehicles, one of the subs I used to moderate, the majority of our community members were on mobile platforms, more than those on PC even though I am personally more on PC.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

These are traffic statistics from r/privatelife from the past 12 months. This is the most favourable scenario for third party Reddit client users.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/ad8416c0-6616-475c-a424-4b6464c8b943.jpeg

The reality is, third party users and old.reddit.com users are a minority and are easiest to ditch for Reddit as a company. And they will no longer care for us, so its best to prioritise our interests just like they are.

PorkrollPosadist,

They could be pulling something sneaky here. The vast majority of people lurk, and most people who lurk probably don't even have accounts. If you haven't bothered to sign up, you probably haven't bothered to use the old interface or a third party application. It wouldn't surprise me if the vast majority of their traffic comes through the standard web interface, even if the stats for user activity paint a different picture.

skeletorsass,

Plus a lot of the things they have been doing recently are dark patterns to get the visitor to make an account or even force it. Google a thing not logged in and they will force you to log in.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Which is why they've been waiting, I'm sure they kept the numbers updated to know what critical mass they thought they needed to be able to chop off this part of their userbase. Ignoring that this part was also the ones who are their most dedicated users, there for the longest amount of time.

dessalines,

Agree, this is certainly a calculated move.

Kichae,

I think it has more to do with timing on business/IPO decisions. They've decided their plan forward, and they've decided that they can afford to lose some users.

I think they've also convinced themselves that most people using 3rd party apps or old.reddit will just get in line, because they won't want to actually leave the platform.

I wonder how that'll work out for them.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I'm sure there's a report in someone's email of the psychology behind it, projected people who will comply and how many people will be projected to actually leave.

CalcProgrammer1,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

Reddit is so damn hypocritical here. They are successful because Digg buried itself doing shit like this. They literally got success as a result of another company doing the speedrun-your-platform-into-oblivion playbook that they are now following themselves. Look in a mirror, idiots, you've become exactly that which was the downfall of your competition some 13 years ago.

sexy_peach,

Damn, that's some weak shit on their parts. Also temporarily banning LemmyMigration? LMAO

stanleytweedle,

It'd be fun to have Lemmy 'flair' for people banned from Reddit for promoting Lemmy.

Veritas, (edited )

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  • scrubbles,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    Things are definitely starting to get weird there, my account is starting to act up, not fetching posts, just had a popup and it went away in chat for "Cannot get info on banned users".

    It's Monday morning. Something tells me some new directives came down from on high about competitor talk.

    Kichae,

    I just had the new UI forced upon my account, and the whole site hiccuped for like 15 minutes through the process. Multiple log-outs, unable to upvote or comment, then suddenly bam, new UI, and everything went back to... not broken.

    PorkrollPosadist,

    Lmao this shit is remining me of the hostile take-over of FreeNode.

    autisticaudioguy,

    Welp, I wuppose now is a good a time as any to delete my entire reddit accounts histories. Fuck em.

    GuyDudeman,
    @GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

    This means they're scared. It means we're winning.

    Archit,

    You are right, that's a great way of looking at this. They are indeed scared, desperate, pathetically desperate.

    Kichae,

    Meh. It might just mean they're annoyed and forward thinking. Better to stop talk of this early before it becomes something they actually need to be afraid of.

    Tretiak,

    ... and forward thinking.

    Let me go ahead and stop you right there.

    dessalines,
    GuyDudeman,
    @GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

    LOL!

    (btw, the gif isn't showing up in your comment. I had to go to source and copy/paste the url of the file)

    dessalines,

    Damnit lol. I'll just post the link.

    this,
    @this@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I just ran powerdelete suit on my reddit accounts and replaced all of my posts/comments with ones urging users to join lemmy. I was going to wait until July 1rst but if reddit is going to get that serious, then so am I. I am OUT!

    Tretiak, (edited )

    I remember I used to fuck with and annoy the shit out of all the users on r/politics. I would make sure I commented something like "Biden 2020 WOO!," and see my comment escalated all the way to the top of the thread. Then I'd wait about 24/48 hours, go back and edit it to something, like praising Donald Trump, and the comments I got back where hilarious. People demanding I got banned. People asking how my comment got to the top of the page. People claiming I was a bot account that paid for upvotes. It was hilarious to watch in real time.

    MrAegis,
    @MrAegis@lemmy.ml avatar

    sees icon on Tretiak's comment here showing that this comment has been edited

    Hmmmm

    veloxization,

    Dang. I should have done this. I just had it edit and then delete. Oh well. :D

    whiskeypickle,
    @whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml avatar

    how do you do this?

    this,
    @this@sh.itjust.works avatar
    Archit,

    Reddit deserves this.

    Kory,
    @Kory@lemmy.ml avatar

    Sorry to hear that, I can hardly imagine how that feels. Well, their loss, our win.

    Skimmer5728,

    fuck reddit. lemmy ftw!

    Kichae,

    I'm really sorry to hear about this. This is really sad and pathetic on Reddit's part.

    Kichae,

    Mostly unrelated, but the actual discussion in the comments on that post are... yeesh. Why do discussions about freeze peach so quickly degrade into right-wing talking points?

    cavemeat,

    A lot of people who are freeze peach absolutists are nazis, that's why they want the ability to say whatever they want in the first place :/

    scoobford,

    Nobody has only terrible ideas. The original Nazis got Hugo Boss to design their uniforms after all, and that turned out well.

    The rest of it though...woof.

    JustEnoughDucks,

    Some of the tech was very good too. But all forms of nazis still deserve to be beat down

    salarua,
    @salarua@sopuli.xyz avatar

    because the only defense of their views is that they're not literally illegal to express

    seirim,
    @seirim@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hmm, can I share this story on Reddit? Will try

    vulfneck,
    Archit,

    Appreciate you guys, seriously.

    cavemeat,

    Today I'm gonna run one of those edit and delete scripts for reddit accounts, and I want my last message to be one promoting this place as a viable alternative :).

    JshKlsn,

    Bro, I am perma IP banned from Reddit and so is every single account that has ever been used while connected to my internet.

    Reddit is garbage as hell.

    EDIT:

    BTW I have filled an appeal, but I don’t expect this to be reversed

    They wont. My friends who were banned after connecting to my WiFi appealed, and Reddit declined their appeal. They legit did NOTHING wrong, and Reddit doesn't care.

    Sorry about your account.

    Tretiak,

    I randomly got banned there just the other day for using a VPN connection to log into my account. Now the last one I had has become permanently suspended.

    Kichae,

    Wow. I thought it was bad when I got a week-long suspension for telling an admin, who was not using their admin account, to fuck off because he was sea-lioning me in a discussion thread. But perma-banned because you visited someone?

    Ridiculous.

    JshKlsn,

    To make it clear I was banned because I told a mod on /r/Android that I preferred a Pixel over a Samsung Galaxy. I was banned, forgot about it, was logged in with one of my alts (a business account), and commented.

    Reddit temporarily banned me for "ban evasion", but my friends didn't know about this, and when they came over and used their phones, when they commented, it turned the temporary "ban evasion" ban into a perma IP ban.

    All of my business and alt accounts, my girlfriends account, all of my friends accounts, all perma-banned.

    Something else interesting? I was going through my old screenshots last night, found a screenshot I took from 2020 on an account I forgot I had, and I went and looked, and it too was suspended. Weirdest part, was I moved, got a new IP, and haven't even logged into that account for nearly 3 years. Reddit just blanket banned every single account that touched my current IP, and every account that has connected to the same internet as my JshKlsn account in the past.

    Fucking wild. They are scorched earthing everything lol.

    cavemeat,

    Good god, what a pathetic website.

    Kichae,

    Jesus.

    You know, I'm a year on the fediverse now, and I've watched months and months of pearl clutching over Mastodon defederations as trans-safe instances have blocked servers with admins that host TERFs and other transphobic accounts.

    This has been contextualized by many as "thin skinned admins having power trips" by people who have never watched a thin skinned admin have a power trip.

    And I thought I'd seen thin skinned admins have power trips before over 15 years on various message boards. Shit, I thought I'd had a couple of power trips on days when my skin's been thin back on IRC.

    But that's setting a new standard for me.

    cavemeat,

    Bigots are gonna bigot, even on platforms that are more resistant to that shit.

    datavoid,

    I'm advertising Lemmy on every popular post on my 11 year old account.. I'm already through the painful part of the breakup, and have moved on to better things. Go ahead and ban me Reddit

    feb,

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  • Archit,

    I will :)

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