Earnest Discussion: It has been 3 days and there is virtually no activity here.

This post should NOT be taken as some kind of insult towards the mods of the previous subreddit, nor should it be seen as some justification for the dumb crap that Reddit is trying to pull with their API. I am totally against Reddit trying to price gouge people who make their site better.

However, I made a post on the thread that announced the indefinite lockdown that people would not switch sites and ultimately it would harm the community because 75-80% of people wouldn't switch, and it seems my number was really wrong. It is more like 95%+. I guess I am making this thread to ask if it is worth fracturing the main place for the PoE community to gather (for better or worse)? I think it is worth a legitimate discussion, because I hate the idea that the PoE community is the one getting harmed because of Reddit's poor decision making. Maybe Reddit will change their tune and this won't matter, but if they're not are we just going to stay away from there forever? Unless this site (which is out of control of the mods here) gets massive upgrades then I just don't ever see it being used at all.

Feel free to give your thoughts and I hope that my post comes across as genuine.

Nettle,

I just made an account here in case I ever need to use it. I was hoping that settings would allow me to change some things to make this site look better (like smaller text!) but all I was able to really do is switch from light mode to dark mode. It doesn't feel like a great replacement just yet...

TheDarkSigil,

Hi, Uhh I guess just give it time. The amount of users has expanded quite a bit the last few days. It'll be several years of constant growth before we see even close to the same amount of activity as on Reddit, but Reddit had to start from the bottom too. I for one was thrilled to see this sub spin up, even if I'm super casual in PoE.

Xugodx2012,

Things take time to grow like reddit did from digg and facebook from the shadow of myspace.

Riathy,

Stuff doesn't happen instantly. What they can do to help it tho, is that the mods delete the sidebar information on reddit and just replace it with this site. I just made an account today as well and as some people pointed out it's the middle of the league which also means stuff isn't that active either.

Different_Tan,

took me a while to find the link to this place, and then could only get it to load using edge of all things. chrome says too many redirects, and firefox eventually said the same thing.

Difficult_Bit_1339,
@Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.works avatar

It doesn't harm the community at all. Having a small high quality community is better than having 10 million people subscribed that spam the forum with low effort comments.

I'd much rather have a smaller community and high quality discussions. All of the important links and threads will be cross posted anyway. All of the teaser videos will be linked here, etc.

The ActivityPub-based platforms like Lemmy are a more sustainable option. It is very likely Reddit will continue their march towards aggressive monetization, the API changes will not be the last thing. Having a community that isn't bound by the whims of a group of executives is a positive thing. Even if that means that it takes time to grow the userbase.

zachary3752,

Hey, I am new to Lemmy and didn't know this existed until today. Hoping we keep seeing more traction to Lemmy!

zanics,

I cant believe the mods shut down the communities central gathering place with genuine POE2 hype on the horizon and pushed us to a dead site that will absolutely not generate any hype whatsoever

thanks guys guess ill just google the poe main website every day to get news updates

zanics,

indefinitely now! not just for 2 days! the subreddit mods are literally holding the community hostage, indefinitely, and offering bad replacements in exchange when almost no one actually cares about any of this

Noooberino,

There is the pathofexile.com homepage and the forums, there are multiple discords. you react like somehow you have no access whatsoever to information or participation with other people just because mods imo rightfully are participating in that boycott... I don't get it...

zanics,

didnt they volunteer to be mods? why not just stop doing it if you arent enjoying it?

Noooberino,

feel free to make and moderate a new subreddit if you don't enjoy the current situation is probably an argumentation on the same level as yours...

Inori,

To be honest, I just don't think people in the Poe (reddit) community know of Lemmy / this place.

SeventhSolar,

I want to mention that the chosen url isn't great. I tried to remember it just now and couldn't, had to go back to the Reddit private community message just to see where it was.

multiplicitypoe,

It's pretty easy to change the URL. What would you suggest?

redditrefugee1234,

lemmy-poe? poe-community?

piz,

Why not lemmy.poe?

redditrefugee1234,

Because .poe is not a valid TLD as far as I know. If you want something non generic (like .com) there might be poe.community poe.forum or poe.social (TLDs found on tld-list.com)

d3ceived,

poe.social sounds nice, and anything short and sweet (one word followed by TLD) will do, really.

moglis, (edited )

People rightly complained / didnt use the official reddit mobile app because it was bad. Some also continued using old.reddit because they didn't like the new one. Honestly, this new thing, is bad. That's the main reason for me. It's not just a "don't want to change" thing either. The UI is lacking compared to reddit. Also the forum view, is not good imo. Both old and new versions of reddit did it better.

Also, that's a me thing, but I don't understand the layout of the page. On reddit you have a main account, 1 account to login and you can join different subs. Have all the relevant info on your front page. Here I only see the poe "sub". Where's the rest? I had my main page with new / relevant posts from all the subs I followed. Like an old man reads the newspaper for many different news, I had reddit and I can't replicate that here. That's the another deal breaker.

Finally there's so many personal account based stuff like saved posts, repositories of information, karma, replies and discussions that can't be transfered here. It just can't happen. There's also a lot of usernames and people you met and talked over the years, now that is gone. And people with streamer names that's gonna cause confusion.

I get it that reddit fucked up and communities are not "moderatable" anymore but this is such a downgrade and the transition causes many problems, I just don't see me happy using either at the end of the day.

progenyofthestars,

Here I only see the poe "sub". Where's the rest? I had my main page with new / relevant posts from all the subs I followed

Gotta shop around other instances, make account where you like the communities/UI and then sub here.

redditrefugee1234,

I think if you are hellbent on getting reddit 2.0 you will be disappointed. Most migrations take time and effort to rebuild what you had. There simply is inherent inertia in switching platforms like this. But there can also be an opportunity to leave old habits behind - the "glass half full" approach :) In the end you seem to "pick the devil you know" and that's fine. Reddit will not be gone soon. If it is the better platform for you, then that's your choice. Maybe, if it gets worse, you come back here and like what the pioneers will have built and migrate then. In the meantime give constructive criticism and point out where your pain points are, so they can be improved.

Cat,

i like this site because i got the username "Cat"

calixte,

Give it some more time

Generic,

I'll be honest, so far the switch seems much more seamless than I expected. With how sedentary social media and the web generally have become, I'd have expected a much, MUCH slower transition, to the tune of maybe a person or two joining per day, with somewhere around 50 joining initially... And that's not even mentioning like others have said that it's already a pretty dead time in the ebb and flow of PoE communication. Given all the circumstances, I think what we currently have is about on track with what could be expected early on. It's not like the reddit userbase didn't generally rely on comparatively few active users to provide content to lurk in.

Ventrua,

anyone else getting confused by these @lemmy.world usernames?

ripnburn69,

yes

lp0101,

That's the magic of the fediverse. It doesn't matter which instance is your home instance, you can comment and participate in practically any community you want.

I use social media for more than just gaming, so it made sense for me to make my account on a more general-purpose instance

spainball,

Some people (like me) created an account on lemmy.world and subscribed to pathofexile-discuss.com from there. Posting/commenting from there as well

haeilsey,
haeilsey avatar

a happy hello from a new kbin user as well! I'm glad that everything seems to be up and working again with federation so I can easily participate here or wherever else without needing a bunch of accounts

ripnburn69,

Poe was the only reddit I really followed the rest of it could go away, and I wouldn't notice. I could get over the lemmy ui, if there was actually people here.

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