kzhe,

Me who uses piped and all:

y5d,

Must say I’m glad they’re doing this. Helps me stay off the platform and be more productive after the 3 videos, and requires me to plan which 3 videos I want to watch. If all addictive platforms had these self-moderating features, I’d definitely use them.

LukeySixx,

I have paid for YouTube Premium for 5 years…forgot there were ads on YouTube🤔

Contend6248,

Yeah, i didn’t use a 1st party app for about 5 years, forgot about them too

Auli,

Greed? I mean they are not a charity and ads pay for the service. Don’t get me wrong I use ad block but to call it greed…

The_Infinite_Monkey,

Yes, greed. Google is an extremely profitable company, wanting more money than they already have is completely unreasonable.

PinkPanther,

Unlimited growth is not impossible! Consider having all the money in the world when it starts to burn. Must be nice.

tias,

Curious to hear how you think YouTube should cover its costs if it’s not allowed to show you ads and not allowed to charge you for usage.

Zuberi,

Bootlickers everywhere man I swear

Zuberi,

They could have a premium feature w/ premium features? I mean it’s not my job to figure this out for them.

tias,

You’re the one who is dissatisfied with the service they’re offering. Are you saying you just don’t want to pay, not see ads, and “they should figure it out” wrt how to pay server bills, bandwidth, software developers etc? I mean if that’s your attitude then you’re just costing them money and have no interest in meeting them halfway, so why should they even care about keeping you as a customer?

Zuberi,

Correct, if they add unblockable ads, I will be downloading my entire subscriber list w/ various python libraries. I will leech them into the ground, idgaf.

Contend6248,

Maybe look in which category you’re in and figure out yourself how much we care.

xT1TANx,

Having to watch ads isn’t free. It costs me my time and it’s limited.

JesusTheCarpenter,

Technically you pay to use Youtube by watching adds. People sometimes forget that there are no free lunches.

BartsBigBugBag,

There are, but they exist outside the market. Any company is going to want a return on its investment, and many people have even been trained to see themselves as “a business” and so operate transactionally in their personal lives, but many people don’t also. There are many people who do and give away many things with no expectation of return.

Doesnotexist,

Someone smarter than me once said, “if your using a service, and it seems free, then YOU are the product being bought and sold”

I don’t think this is always true, but it usually is.

Contend6248,

As long as there are CEOs getting payed more than i could earn in my life for one year, i’m good with my free lunch.

Soltros,

More people should try out Tubesync. It’s a tool you can host yourself that essentially uses yt-dl as a backend and lets you subscribe to channels, and it’ll download videos as they come out. Gets you away from the ads and you can archive content you like forever.

github.com/meeb/tubesync

Captain_Nipples,

I wonder if they’ll ever make that impossible. I used to go on a couple of 6 hour drives twice a week for a long time. A lot of the drive didn’t have cell service, as it was thru a bunch of mountains. I ended up making a python script that downloaded podcast episodes to listen to, and to force my brother to watch Your Mom’s House, when he was with me on the drive.

It was surprisingly simple to do this.

burningquestion,

They tried to yoink the youtube-dl source a year or so ago with a DMCA claim. Ultimately it was restored because archivists and historians are actually using it for archival purposes and Google would look like jerks if they pushed too hard against that. I think they hate it but aren’t in a position to come for it yet.

JasonDJ,

I’m glad that their are contemporary historians and archivists perusing YouTube so my great-great-great-great grandchildren can watch a video game review in which a grown man gets shit on by Bugs Bunny.

PirateForDaLolz,

I’m not so sure that this is anything to worry about. It’s just another step in the game of cat and mouse. Is it annoying? Of course! But if/when it goes mainstream, ad blockers are just going to push updates that make it possible to block the ad block blocker. uBlock Origin does a really good job at blocking ad block blockers on most sites.

hydra,
@hydra@lemmy.world avatar

True, especially with the fuckfuckadblock list which really mitigates most aDvLoKC d3TeKteD bullshit.

tartarsauce,

Honestly, using uBO (which is really the only blocker anyone should be using) I never see those popups anyway. And that list apparently causes unintended connections to google servers (warning, there’s some drama in this issue between the ublock dev and the list’s dev, but gorhill comes off more reasonable here.)

So really, just turn on most of the filter lists in uBO settings as per your need and you should be good to go.

PirateForDaLolz,

lol I’ve seen plenty of social media drama, but this is probably the most hilarious drama I’ve ever seen. Imagine getting into a fight on the GitHub issue tracker. 😆

tartarsauce,

oh, it happens all the time lol

a great recent-ish example is the time some kid PR’ed a dumb readme edit to an Unreal Engine repo which was used only for making people sign a TOS before getting access to the engine’s source code, which led to… this.

PirateForDaLolz,

lol this is hilarious. I feel bad for Rohith, but the fact that it was possible for such a mistake to even be made is hilarious. The people being rude to him in the replies though all suck.

tartarsauce,

Yeah, I feel the same. The consequences weren’t even all that extreme. And more importantly, it’s really not his fault that Epic set up the group that way, and the grown men malding and screaming at a child like melodramatic pissbabies are truly a clownshow. I laughed out loud at the “Lock it. Lock it now.” guy - how can one sniff their own farts to such a degree?

PirateForDaLolz,

Yeah. Seeing those things makes me wonder what it must be like to have them as coworkers.

littlecolt,

Holy cow, is the real? On YouTube desktop? Or just on mobile?

Orbitrix,

This seems somewhat intentionally coordinated, so that the squeeze everyone into submission.

Kinglink,

If you’re demanding I watch ads, it’s not “free”. you’re demanding my time and probably attention.

I really think we need to stop with this idea that “Something is free” because no money is exchanged. Some stuff ARE free, there are repos on git, where you can download software, there are websites that ask for nothing. However Gmail, Youtube, reddit, and the rest are not “Free” just because they aren’t directly asking for money.

Arodg25,

Greed didn’t lead someone, this is a shareholder entity. Each shareholder doesn’t even have to think about greed. The entity does it all for them. That’s why companies can do horrible things and everyone can sleep at night. It’s always the entity that did it not them. Shareholders are the root of all evil in this world today.

chemotype,

Nah, landlords are

reksas,

landlords are but a branch of this tree of evil

techgearwhips,

Firefox

ivyZorz,

This. I’m pretty sure this is a result of the ad engine changes they made to chrome a few months ago. Manifest V2 is what enables uBlock Origin to be so effective iirc and they’re removing it in chrome in favor of Manifest V3.

Firefox on the other hand still supports V2.

RobotToaster,

Firefox on the other hand still supports V2.

For now, mozilla rely heavily on google for funding.

They dropped xul extensions to have extension compatibility with chrome a few years ago.

demonicbullet,

How does that work exactly?

Like they are direct competitors no? Wouldn’t Mozilla be motivated to fuck google as hard as possible?

merc,

Like they are direct competitors no?

No, Google pays Firefox to make it seem like it still has competitors and isn’t a monopoly. However, a key condition of that payment is that the default search engine in Firefox is Google. They change that, they lose most of their funding – not most of their Google funding, most of their revenue (which is nearly all Google).

Wouldn’t Mozilla be motivated to fuck google as hard as possible?

If they still existed as an actual company, sure. But, it’s not. It’s a corpse that Google animates with their huge funding to make it seem like they still have competitors. Technically, Google doesn’t own Mozilla, but in a 2012 report, 85% of their funding came from Google. So, they’re never going to do anything that risks that funding.

KeepItDory,

I was curious how people feel about Braves new Browser? I usually stick to Firefox but I’ve given it a try. It however does seem to be chromium based.

beppi,

Yeah its just reskinned chromium like the rest, but it’still nowhere near as bad as chrome, edge and the other telemetry filled ones.

Support Firefox!

trepX,

I’d say to you all: get used to bombshells dropping! At some point the investor pyramid scheme will go crashing down. It might be now. All those companies were on borrowed time. Until investors realised that “data” isn’t valuable on its own - it’s what you make of it. There needs to be a product that generates revenue. Spoiler alert, it is hard to come up with a business plan that takes plain usage data and makes the technical challenges worthwhile to squeeze money from it. I can feel it myself as data scientist. The honeymoon’s over, investors want to see ROI.

I mean this cycle will probably recover in a few years when the markets recover but still - some lessons stick

Ragerist,
@Ragerist@lemmy.world avatar

Holy shit! Your post made me realize that we are in Dot-com bubble burst 2.0

It’s the exact same thing, everyone and their dog, had to have a webpage. Investors finally realized that most websites had no way of generating money, and stuff came crashing down.

Same thing is happening now!

Coreidan,

Still waiting for ISPs to change their model ever since “net neutrality” was abolished. With all of this shit with YouTube, Twitter, and Reddit coming down the pipe it really does feel there has been a global change in how corporations are squeezing their customers. I am guessing ISPs are waiting for the bulk of services to change their model before they sweep in with their greed. It’s coming.

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