GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

The problem you describe is that there are a hundred working ways. Each path works but you have to find it and take it.

Imo, you can reduce the list to:

how to pirate movies as a beginner

1. Setup vpn
2. Install qbittorrent
3. Visit a tracker like 1337x.to
4. Download and enjoy

How to pirate movies as a pro

1. Read about torrents
2. Setup vpn
3. Setup docker
4. Setup prowlarr
5. Setup gluetun
6. setup qbittorrent
7. Find a tracker, any tracker, and add it to prowlarr
8. Search for something on prowlarr and be happy
9. Add another tracker
10. Setup radarr
11. Setup jellyfin
12. Setup nginx proxy manager traefik

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

This helps a lot, thanks

Zozano, 3 months ago

What are gluetun and npm used for? I did a quick search but I don’t really understand the purpose.

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

Gluetun ensures that the containers are properly connected to the vpn and that port forwarding is enabled which can be a pain in the ass.

Npm = nginxproxymanager, it forwards external requests to the right port where the containers are such that you can reach your jellyfin instance on your selfhosted/rented server

xenspidey, 3 months ago

Yeah, npm might not be a great abbreviation for that. npm = node package manager, which is big in node.js and javascript.

Zozano, 3 months ago

For routing all traffic through the VPN, I use the systemd-resolved custom script

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

And that port forwards properly?

Zozano, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

What do you mean properly?

My home server isn’t remotely accessible if that’s what you’re asking.

But there are no DNS leaks and all my containers work fine.

(Forgive my ineptitude, I’m still new to advanced networking and home servers in general)

I see the difference is Gluetun is used to route some traffic through the VPN. I don’t have a need for that, so I use the script to route all my traffic through the VPN.

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

Do you torrent? Torrenting needs open ports

Zozano, 3 months ago

Yeah I torrent, I haven’t manually configured any ports though. IP is hidden according to iknowwhatyoudownloaded

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

In case you ecncounter difficulties to find peers then it’s because of ports. You’ll find more peers with open ports and port forwarding of a vpn. It’s a bad limitation of the protocoll, imo. I2p may solve it when we switch to it (if we ever switch to it).

Zozano, 3 months ago

I’ve not had any issues to date, but good to know, thanks :)

quirzle, 3 months ago

How to pirate movies as a pro

No mention of Usenet

Appoxo, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Torrent and Usenet are not exclusive.
Upside of torrent: No upfront cash to use.
No need to research backbones, pre paid accounts etc.

quirzle, 3 months ago

I never said they're exclusive; I use both in my workflow. The comment to which I replied made it seem like private trackers were the end-all though, which I took issue with.

I also think your upsides are a bit misleading. I wouldn't use torrents without a VPN (upfront cash), and the effort to learn how usenet works isn't any more daunting than the effort needed to get into good private trackers and keep up the ratios (e.g., tracking time/ratio based on tracker, working with hardlinks, etc.).

Appoxo, 3 months ago

You can torrent effectively free. Never said that you should do it.
Usenet usage is paid from the 1st step.

crony, 3 months ago

I moved to usenet, seted up a few good indexers and providers and the experience is 1000x better and easier than trying to get into any kind of private trackers.

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

You have to fill out an application form to get into a private tracker. Literally just a couple of sentences about your torrent experience, why you want to join, etc. You can copy paste that paragraph and send it to 10 trackers.

What did you write that you were not accepted?

crony, 3 months ago

I didn’t bother applying, mostly because I don’t look for contant stream of media, and the fact I would then need to managage my seed ratio.

Not interested in all that, plus I’m very limited on storage, and not can’t upgrade it cause it’s too expensive here either way.

Usenet is just better for my usecase.

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

It’s not difficult to get into one.

And Seed ratio is only a problem for newbies without history.

Sounds like prejudices, tbo.

crony, 3 months ago

i don’t have history either man. Every private tracker I tried applying to wanted atleast proof of good seed ration from 2 other private trackers also. Which I don’t have I never tou hed private trackers before.

And either way I don’t have disk space to keep torrent’s around to build up the ratio. ( I have 100gb free for movies/tv shows ).

Vendetta9076, 3 months ago

Traefik is usually a better fit than Ngnix Proxy manager

Professional_Human, 3 months ago

I’ve always been curious about why people say that

Is there anything in particular?

Vendetta9076, 3 months ago

In my experience its more flexible and super easy to set up. Sure, Nginx Proxy Manager is brain dead easy, but its pretty clunky if you want subdomains and the like. Traefik just works. I can route my local services and my external services through the same instance and it just goes. Its awesome.

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago

Same for nginx proxy manager. I just read upon the differences and traefik is aware of containers and shall be easier to update. I may switch to it. Thx for bringing this up.

Nginx proxy manager is super easy (for me) but traefik might be the better recommendation. Both work.

Appoxo, 3 months ago

You can set rules through docker compose.
e.g.: traefik.http.routers.traefik-public.rule: 'Host(dashboard.${DOMAIN_EXTERNAL})’
This makes it easy to setup again elsewhere without having to setup everything manually because it’s (if setup correctly) ✨automagically✨

Scrollone, 3 months ago

You may skip step 1 (getting a VPN) if you live in a country that doesn’t give a shit about piracy. Do your own research

dysprosium, 3 months ago

docker

what benefit does a docker deliver? Isn’t that just a way to isolate things as if it were running inside a mini-computer?

GravitySpoiled, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

You can use a compose file and have the same setting on any device. Similar to nix. It’s like a recipe for an app. Instead of installing nextcloud step by step, you can just use docker. Same here.

quirzle, 3 months ago

Pretty much. You can download images with everything bundled and ready to go (e.g., deploy a new container image instead of upgrading your Radarr version in place) and keep them separate (e.g., Torrent container goes through vpn but your media server doesn't, Radarr upgrade going south won't affect your Sonarr install, etc.)

snownyte, 3 months ago

Some of what you've listed isn't exactly confusing - they're just pirates who are gamifying piracy and in the honest pirating ways - that's disrespectful.

Direct downloading can be easy but also not easy. File sharing sites do adhere to requests from copyright holders or anyone filing complaints will get the content taken down in time. The biggest blow of this is Uloz where you could practically find anything on it and download, at the cost of spending time if you don't want to pay for speedy downloads.

But most of the time, direct downloading is a whack a mole game. Maybe people aren't telling others because they could be sharing outdated information, almost nobody can be sure whether the content will still be there. Furthermore, it is frustrating because you have to weed through so much bullshit like ads, redirect links and more just to get to a single working DDL link. I'd know, I've done this many times.

hexagonwin, 3 months ago

I just download from whatever site’s available on the megathread…

qwerty, 3 months ago

1337x.to, qbittorrent, vpn if your isp cares. Dodi, fitgirl, johncena141 for games. For audio, video, books, just don’t be dumb and open bee_movie.mp4.exe and you’ll be fine.

RGB, 3 months ago

It is a very difficult topic - I use slsk private trackers and now try to revive airdc++ my data set is around 60TB - it is pain in ass to manage -HDD’s fail, you need to salvage the data, also buy a new bigger ones, ssd’s also fail. Internet connection is limited, and the MASSIVE amount of data being produced these dayz… I also run I2P and IPFS nodes, TOR snowflake. And it is massive pain that alphatracker is down… also the rarbg loss. Please keep calm, everything will be fine, I have to mention that I live in a grey country - no need for vpn - that really helps.

Gooey0210, 3 months ago

Really can’t get the point of the post

I’m enjoying rutracker + tpb. Very easy, very fast, always find what I want

torubrx, 3 months ago

I still don’t have a single clue of what Sonarr and Radarr actually are. And, man, I’ve searched it all over, nothing’s ever clear

Epsilon, 3 months ago

You add a desired show/movie and it searches selected trackers and downloads the torrent(s) through a configured torrent client. Not hard to understand really.

ccdfa, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Sonarr and Radarr are just some apps that handle the searching, download queueing, and organizing for movies and shows respectively.

You can tell them what media you want and in what quality/file size. They then use another app (Jackett, Prowlarr) to search a list of your preferred websites. They analyze the results and pick a download that best fits your quality specifications. They then send those results to your download client and move/copy/link the finished downloads to your specified media directory. They also rename your downloaded media files according to a scheme that you can define to your liking. In this way your media library stays clean and organized.

Basically you set them up once and then whenever you want something you just add it to your library on either Sonarr or Radarr depending on if you want a movie or a show. The apps handle the rest of the process for you. Additionally, they will periodically search your list of websites for media you already have and can replace what you have with versions that better align with your quality preferences.

To make things even simpler for the end user (presumably you), you can also set up apps like Jellyseerr or Overseerr that act as a front end to Sonarr and Radarr. You can search in a quick and convenient way for the media you want, and these front end apps will add them the appropriate Sonarr or Radarr library. Coupled with a media server like Jellyfin, the pirate’s workflow essentially becomes this: 1) navigate to your request page, 2) select what you want to watch, 3) wait for it to appear on your media server, 4) watch it.

Edit: fixed a subject-verb agreement problem.

WanderingVentra, 3 months ago

What’s the advantage of downloading these over setting up the qbittorrent search function to search multiple torrent sites when I type something in there, as it does for me now?

kureta, 3 months ago

you don’t need to search anything. that’s the difference. you add a TV show and it downloads every new episode according to your specifications as they come out. for movies automated downloads are less relevant but it rename, organizes, adds metadata etc. also you can add a movie before it is released and it will download the movie when to becomes available.

So, automated search, download, rename, organize etc. Not necessary at all. Just a convenience for those who like that sort of thing.

WanderingVentra, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Ohhh okay! That party sounds pretty good actually. There are a couple episodes of some TV shows I’d love to have that I’m missing lol

themelm, 3 months ago

It also picks up new episodes as they air.

ShepherdPie, 3 months ago

They allow you to search for files of a specific size range and resolution automatically based on profiles that you configure during the setup process. Once configured, you just tell them what movie or show you want and they take care of everything else. 15 minutes later (or however long it takes to download) the files will appear in your library ready to watch. Also, for stuff that hasn’t been released yet, it will monitor those and download them automatically once someone uploads a copy.

ccdfa, 3 months ago

I’ve never used the qBittorrent search function so if everything mentioned in my earlier comment is included in qBittorrent directly, then I don’t know. Use what works best for you. As I understand it, the main appeal of the *arr stack is that it does everything automatically and without you having to intervene to get what you want.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I imagine that qBittorrent doesn’t automatically search for better versions of your media, automatically rename and move files to your specification, automatically evaluate search results to choose a download that matches your desired quality, automatically search for desired media when it is released (like new episodes of a currently running TV show), automatically import subtitle files or extras to your library, or automatically grab metadata for all your media.

WanderingVentra, 3 months ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I imagine that qBittorrent doesn’t automatically search for better versions of your media, automatically rename and move files to your specification, automatically evaluate search results to choose a download that matches your desired quality, automatically search for desired media when it is released (like new episodes of a currently running TV show), automatically import subtitle files or extras to your library, or automatically grab metadata for all your media.

Those parts do sound pretty good lol

fine_sandy_bottom, 3 months ago

Oh man.

Stremio + torrentio plugin + real debrid subscription.

I used Usenet and then torrents for 20 years or so but this stremio stack allowed me to get rid of all that *arr crap, also VPN, and private trackers et cetera. Not to mention a hot, power hungry home server.

Others will be along to disagree with me any moment, but for me this stack is infinitely better.

Downloading and storing stuff doesn’t make any sense in the era of unlimited data.

Assian_Candor, 3 months ago

Someone has to seed though. I don’t know much about seedboxes but it seems like a seed box + plex combo is a solid way to go.

The home server route is way more complicated than rd+stremio for sure, but is still necessary in some contexts. I keep one just for kids content bc there’s no way to separate it out using stremio that I’ve found so far. It’s a bit of a pain to set up but with docker it’s not so bad. Stremio + rd for everything else.

Anything is better than watching fucking ads

dysprosium, 3 months ago

docker

why use a docker at all? What is the potential benefit?

Assian_Candor, 3 months ago

The config files make it easy to repeat functioning setups and guaranteed software compatibility

JamesConeZone, 3 months ago

Docker silos your apps into VMs called containers so if it malfunctions, the entire server doesn’t need to reboot only the docker container. You can also wall off select containers’ network access through VPNs and allow others through. Seems to work a bit better than split tunneling for me

retrieval4558, 3 months ago

My two cents, piracy is not necessarily more complicated than it ever was at its simplest, but the potential for enhanced automation and security is MUCH higher than it used to be. That’s the complex part.

I’m one of the lucky private tracker people. If I wasn’t in there, I’d go all in on Usenet.

calzone_gigante, 3 months ago

P2p is the way the web naturally flowed, protocols like bittorrent wore able to distribute content better than giant streaming companies without relying on giant infrastructure.

Now sharing is frowed upon, hosting your own server at home is frowed upon, the web used to be more made by users, now to do anything you need to go through a big company.

The difficulties you face on piracy is just a reflection of how capitalism is fucking the web.

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

seems that way

Appoxo, 3 months ago

The safest thing you can do is direct download from file share websites, but nobody says where these websites are.

Until some legal entity decides to raid the servers. Pray they do not keep logs of IPs. Though usually this may be (to some extent) a gray zone in some countries.

If you want to torrent files, you need to subscribe to an exclusive private tracker

I download anime almost exclusively from nyaa. SubsPlease, Erai-Raws and many others are borderline there within 2h from release.
Private trackers allow for even higher quality by applying a ruleset like only remuxes and maybe they only allow a certain bitrate to have it classify as a remux on their community.

. To get access to a private tracker, you need to get lucky, or you need to go through a painstaking process of levelling up over months and months of seeding torrents from semi-private trackers until you get to an actual good one that may or may not have the content you are looking for.

No need to level up. Some more exclusive trackers may (or may not) open their doors during an open signup. But this is like any exclusive club. Either you stay a “pleb” in the open field or work for acess to the hifher club. Don’t imagine for a second you could just enter the exclusive area in a high roller casino without a few hundred 10k chips. :p

If you don’t want to do this, you need to pay for a UseNet provider, then you need to register for a similarly exclusive UseNet index service, probably paid as well. There is no guarantee you will find what you are looking for on here either, and there is a chance that your download will fail.

Usenet was always paid in the recent years.
Paying an indexing service is not mandatory. I am signed up to 4 services in the free tier just fine.
That you will not find stuff there is just as likely there, in P2Pworld as in the open web DDL or the privately shared lists world.

Whether you are using torrents or UseNet, you need a service to help you find the content in the first place, for example Sonarr, Radarr or Lidarr. Something called Jackett also fits into this somehow and apparently links to whatever indexes you are using.

What?
You can search the sites just fine on their own search engine. The *arrs and jacket/prowlarr are just unifying the searching into one engine and the *arrs parse and categorize your searches to help you find the stuff you want.
As I said: You can either search TPB manually just fine, oooooor you plonk it into prowlarr and have it synced to your *arrs.

• If you are torrenting, you then need a torrent client such as qBitTorrent to actually get the files.

• If you are using UseNet, you need a UseNet downloader such as jdownloader.

To browse the web, you need a web browser?
To use a computer you need a storage drive?
To use anything you need electricity.
So what’s your point??

Alternatively, for either option you can pay for a Debrid service such as Real-Debrid or Premiumize to download the files for you, if you send them the links. Besides protecting your privacy and your bandwidth, these services are also great for bypassing the limits on the elusive direct download sites nobody can tell me any more about.

Any user logged to an exclusive community and uploading to something like those services are borderline stupid. lmao!
And they probably risk their account from being banned pretty quickly for breaking seeding rules They may function like a remote qbittorrent with a nice streaming interface. You basically pay someone to give you a pretty interface. Same as a seedbox, but you have no power over what you can/can not do :p

but this shit is so confusing. It is harder than paying for drugs on the dark web with illegal crypto currency.

Absolutely not. You just may be having issues understanding the material. Nothing wrong with that though.
I am still having problems understanding some concepts of for example VLANs, (v)SANs and software defined storage.

I just wanna have my own home streaming service.

Easy:

• Download and install Jellyfin (or Plex if you want to get shafted. Just donate the same amount to the Jellyfin team).
• Organizing: Download and install sonarr (tv)/radarr (movies)
• Torrent: Either wait for access to TL during an upcoming holiday like easter and monitor communication channels or watch opensignup websites.
• Usenet: Sub to a few closed communities. Same as the torrent way.
• Downloading: For torrent: qbit, for usenet: sabnzbd.
• Indexing: Prowlarr as the all-in-one solutiom.
• Download: Either search prowlarr through it’s own interface or through sonarr/radarr ooooor just download all yourself from some DDL page or rip from other (pirate) streaming sites via plugins and organize it via the *arrs.

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

What? You can search the sites just fine on their own search engine. The *arrs and jacket/prowlarr are just unifying the searching into one engine and the *arrs parse and categorize your searches to help you find the stuff you want.

I’ve been trying to understand this stuff without seeing any of it possum-party

Thanks for the help, this answers pretty much everything I was confused about

Appoxo, 3 months ago

Awesome guides (with an ironic name): trash-guides.info

quirzle, 3 months ago

Until some legal entity decides to raid the servers. Pray they do not keep logs of IPs. Though usually this may be (to some extent) a gray zone in some countries.

Can you give an example? I don't think accessing a file somebody makes available has ever been an issue with copyright prosecution. They go after uploaders and hosts.

Even if they did, an IP in a server log isn't definitive proof of an individual accessing something. However, I'm less confident of worldwide legal systems understanding that. Still, I'd be curious if there's a single example of somebody being charged over accessing publicly accessible copyrighted files on the web.

Appoxo, 3 months ago

No need to poke the bear :)
Just trying to be cautious.

Zedstrian, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

I think HDEncode and ReleaseBB are among the best DDL websites, though there’s other options listed on the FMHY and Megathread lists. To make practical use of them though, you either need an expensive Rapidgator subscription or a more affordable debrid subscription (i.e. RealDebrid). If you use RealDebrid or AllDebrid, one method of finding releases is using Debrid Media Manager, which searches for cached releases that other users have already submitted to the debrid service you’re subscribed to. As debrid downloads, in my experience at least, are often corrupted (resulting in errors either when extracting files from an archive or re-encoding a video in MKVToolNix), the best use of debrid services is to use it with an app like Stremio to have an all-in-one streaming service.

The other paid solution is usenet, which requires a NZB download program (i.e. NZBGet), a usenet indexer, and a usenet provider. The latter two usually require yearly subscriptions, but often have better results than can be found on DDL sites or public torrent trackers. While some usenet indexers are private, there are enough that are not to make waiting for open signups for those indexers optional. The public ones include altHUB, Miatrix, and NZB Finder, the private ones include DrunkenSlug and Tabula Rasa, while NZBGeek is public but is only free during a limited trial period, after which a subscription is needed. The free ones usually have a 5 downloads per day limit without a subscription. Note that Jdownloader is not a NZB download program, but rather one for regular downloads, and would instead be used for DDL site downloads.

For torrenting you need access to torrent trackers and a torrent download program. qBittorrent can do both if you add the Jackett plugin to it, though the best seeded (available for download) releases are often on semi-private and private torrent trackers. The best semi-private to start out with is TorrentLeech, given its lax seeding requirements compared to other private trackers. Keeping releases seeded on TorrentLeech gives you points over time that you can use to boost your ratio.

While I’d recommend using a paid VPN if you choose to go the route of torrenting, it’s not essential if you instead use debrid and/or usenet subscriptions as in those cases you’re not re-uploading downloaded releases to other users. If you’d rather not pay for any services, I’d recommend just using a site like MovieWeb to stream releases compiled from free streaming websites. While the quality is not always as good as can be had with the three options above, it works well for most use cases.

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

This is incredibly helpful, thank you. I couldn’t figure out exactly what Rapidgator was used for before, if it similar to Debrid and used to indirectly download files from other file sharing websites then that makes sense.

Zedstrian, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Rapidgator is a file hosting website often used by DDL sites. It makes money by slowing downloads down to a crawl unless you have a premium subscription, as well as only allowing one download at a time for free users. As this is problematic for downloading multiple movies at a time, let alone TV shows, debrid services serve as a middleman by downloading files from file hosts such as Rapidgator to their own servers and caching them for their own subscribers to download for a set amount of time.

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

Ah OK got you thanks

rambos, 3 months ago

We still have torrents, only thing thats new is option to set up *arr stack for next level torrenting. Piratebay is still working, torrents and/or usenet are way better with speeds we have today… I never liked LimeWire. Just use VPN my dude

WeLoveCastingSpellz, 3 months ago

just look at this: fmhy.net

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

Niceee, thank you, and the sites for movies etc, they’re usually reliable and trustworthy?

WeLoveCastingSpellz, 3 months ago

anything on fmhy.net should be trustworthy

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago

Awesome

sag, 3 months ago

Yep I trust them blindly (only for streamimg).

danisth, 3 months ago

I have a few torrentleech invites, any hexbear users can hit me up with a dm for one.

JamesConeZone, 3 months ago

Can you use a VPN on TL?

Scrollone, 3 months ago

Second torrentleech. It’s free, you just need an invite and you have to follow their rules (but that’s valid on any private tracker)

Appoxo, 3 months ago

Don’t need invites. The tracker consiytently opens every major holidays (now upcoming: Easter). And if not, they open usually during Summer or Black Friday/Week and Christmas.

idkmybffjoeysteel, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Thanks, I will hit you up if I get confident it will not go to waste