Nerd02,
@Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

Thanks for sharing. The default launcher on my phone is terrible and I hate having to move to different layouts every time I switch phones (which only happens every 5+ years, but is still annoying) so I have been using Nova for many years.

Just turned off its internet access on both data and wifi, let’s see if it complains about it.

As a note: I can see that it only transfered a few hundred kilobytes in the past month, which isn’t a lot, but it’s still more than zero.

tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

I greatly appreciate this

I had no fucking clue for two years. How much longer would I have remained ignorant? Frightening.

unexposedhazard,

I mean if you install apps from commercial stores then this is the norm. If its not explicitly proven to be tracking and analytics free, then its usually not.

deweydecibel,

Well, the weird thing is they haven’t actually done anything to the app yet. Looks like they’re just focusing on the next major release. The version that has been available in the store for the last 2 years hasn’t been fucked with.

MisterFrog,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

I just hopped to another launcher by total coincidence a couple of weeks ago. This is welcome news

Ilandar,

If you are concerned about analytics and tracking then I have bad news for you. Most apps on the Play Store are absolutely loaded with inbuilt trackers. You can check them using Exodus (or use the Aurora Store since privacy reports are displayed by default there).

tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for that site. Very useful.

I haven’t seen that feature on the aurora store, but I probably just missed it.

I expect free apps to have tracking, but if it’s something like an app launcher that needs so many permissions and is running all the time… That’s just horrific

Ilandar,

I haven’t seen that feature on the aurora store, but I probably just missed it.

It’s towards the bottom of the page for whatever app you’re viewing. Sometimes it won’t have a privacy report available by default, but you can always go through to the website and generate one yourself. One of the worst apps I’ve found so far is the Woolworths one (Australian supermarket). It contains 11 trackers and within the first 6 hours following installation my tracker blocker had already prevented 11,325 tracking attempts.

Dave, (edited )
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

As someone who likewise freaked out when I got a pihole setup and 30% or more of requests were blocked, the early days are normally just the same requests endlessly retrying. So while it blocked 11k, if they weren’t blocked it would probably only be a few hundred. Probably poor programming not covering the fact it can be blocked.

Still better to block, though.

Ilandar,

In a way I think that makes it more scary though, at least in a figurative sense. It’s like a group of debt collectors constantly banging on your door to get in and you have your foot there and are telling them to go away but they won’t listen. If you take it away for a second, they knock it down and come charging in to take what they believe they are owed.

Dave,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Yeah, that’s pretty much it 😐

GasMaskedLunatic,

It was unfortunate, but not unexpected. Neo Launcher is a decent alternative, though it’s not quite on par with Nova, and their development has been very slow the last year. Benefit of GrapheneOS, I can just disable Nova’s network access, so I don’t really have to compromise here thankfully.

bam13302,

Just checked the app on my phone, 0 bites used, I don’t really think they get any live data from it.

deweydecibel, (edited )

Not yet. Nova Launcher 8 is the problem version and it’s still in beta. If you’re still using version 7, particularly 7.0.57, then it’s the version from before the buyout and it’s clean. It’s suspected they turned some analytics on with 7.0.58, but even that still looks clean to me. That is the only update they’ve pushed since the buyout.

My guess is they didn’t want to fuck with the current version, they just wanted to devote their focus to getting all the tracking shit into the upcoming major release.

If you disable auto updates now, you’ll probably be fine until it stops working

red,

Making guesses when you don’t have any actual information makes you look like a fool.

Quetzalcutlass,

Nova 8 shows 0 bytes used with error and usage reporting toggled off in advanced settings, so it seems they respect that setting.

AccurstDemon,
@AccurstDemon@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’ve disabled network access to Nova on a stock Android phone with NetGuard netguard.me

And if you worry about how to update NetGuard automatically you can do it with Obtainium

smeg,

I quite like Neo/Omega launcher, it’s probably the best FOSS launcher I’ve found.

their development has been very slow the last year

This is the painful part. There are regressions that have been introduced which have sat their for years, and I’ve got no idea if they’ll ever be fixed. But such is the open source way, they owe me nothing and are still providing a generally good experience for free!

Mikufan,

Ive never seen it sending data except the optional analytics that can easily be turned off so far i sadly also didn’t find a good alternative

deweydecibel,

If you’re still using Nova 7, it’s fine. If you installed the beta for version 8, that’s the one they’ve been working on after the buyout.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Yikes! I’ve been using it since like 2018 and liking it. Any alternatives?

spiritedpause,

You can find some solid open source alternatives here, the ones I like most are Lawn Chair and Kvæsitso:

alternativeto.net/software/nova-launcher/?license…

merde,
aleph,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

That’s the outdated version.

It’s best to use the latest nightly build from here:

lawnchair.app

No1,
@No1@aussie.zone avatar

Thanks for the pointers.

Now running lawnchair. Just wish it had app updates via f-droid or store…

aleph,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

Yup, it’s been some time since there was a coherent team development effort being made on it. Until they get their act together, maybe using Obtanium would work?

merde,

why is it “best”?

not baiting, just curious. it’s an offline app that functions correctly. Why would i need to keep it up to date like an os or a browser or a host file?

aleph,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

More features, bug fixes, and better compatibility with the lastest version of Android.

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen a lot of people suggest lawnchair 2 will be checking it out myself.

rzlatic, (edited )
@rzlatic@lemmy.ml avatar

Switched to Niagara after Nova was bought off, but lately using the KISS launcher which does the job similar to Niagara when configured, and it’s FOSS.

Lawnchair is quite basic.

Bakkoda,

I switched to Niagara and while it’s not anything similar I’ve really enjoyed learning it.

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