jonty, (edited )
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Dad suggested I should retrain, because I always seem stressed out by my job.

His "really calm" neighbours are air traffic controllers and have I ever considered that as a less stressful career?

rowat_c,
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@jonty he's reversed the direction of casualty

matt,
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@jonty I presume the neighbours are really calm because they are not at work when he meets them?

jonty,
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Careers that are not less stressful than my current job, a list:

  1. Mine clearance
  2. Brain surgery
  3. Being responsible for passenger aircraft not crashing into one another every 47 seconds
phae,
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@jonty your dad is nuts. Knew a dude becoming an ATC once and he had to have psych tests to see if he'd crack under the pressure before even training.

jonty,
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@phae YEP

jonty,
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@phae

Me: [walks into the psych stress assessment]

Doctor: Next

tom,

@phae @jonty one of my old housemates at uni was a massive caner and the least reliable person I’ve ever met, so it was somewhat surprising to hear he’d trained as an air traffic controller. I think about this whenever I fly. He was quite good at Monkey Target tho?

jonty,
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@tom @phae I too will now think about this every time I fly. THANKS TOM.

phae,
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jonty,
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@phae @tom I was just trying to learn things for my new career I'm so sorry

nav,

@jonty They ARE calm.Which is simultaneously EXACTLY what you want, and utterly terrifying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcGA3vRwzuE

red,
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@jonty “design safety systems for oil and wind platforms” they said

“It’ll be fun, rewarding and low stress with no professional obligation to make sure people stay alive” they said.

gsuberland,
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@red @jonty assess critical infrastructure and industrial control systems for security issues, they said. it'll be interesting and rewarding, they said.

THOUSAND YARD STARE

red,
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@gsuberland @jonty wait wait wait you’re saying I’m not meant to put the AIS, GNSS, RADAR and bridge instrumentation for an FPSO on a common DMZ network using moxa unmanaged switches so that it’s easier to make them all communicate?

gsuberland,
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@red @jonty network encapsulated NMEA traffic bridged onto the IT network with no filtering? VDR from 20 years ago running Windows XP, with a known hardware fault that causes the PSU to catch fire under unusually high load? I'm sure it's all fine, it's only a checks notes LPG tanker full of flammable gas.

gsuberland,
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@red @jonty tbh this stuff has kinda stopped fazing me. it takes something particularly egregious to make me even raise an eyebrow these days.

it's the assessments on stuff like child safeguarding systems that keep me up at night. definitely lost sleep thinking about those tests.

red,
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@gsuberland @jonty you’ll be glad to hear that in the last decade I’ve seen huge leaps forward in network design and security in the energy industry.

Fiber to the platform and wind farm was a generational shift big enough for the majors to realise that they weren’t secure by default and that good design starts on paper years before and is included all the way through.

The usual human factors still exist though, and the companies that aren’t keeping up with the best in the field are definitely numerous.

gsuberland,
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@red @jonty I spent a lot of the last 5 years doing operational technology assessments on marine & offshore, so can definitely agree there. It used to be dire, but the push for remote monitoring and emergency access systems (plus new regs from the IMO) have really gotten people to pay attention. vendors are still a bit behind the times, but the actual network segmentation and patch management stuff got a lot better.

gsuberland,
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@red @jonty ICS/SCADA on land is still a total mess though. I find half a dozen RCEs and safety system bypasses in the (usually bloated) middleware on an average test. Lots of stuff architected insecurely from the ground up so it's near impossible to fix. Sorta goes to show that you need external regulators to set mandates for security, otherwise nobody bothers.

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