evan, (edited )
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

It's better for the users of siloed social networks if those networks federate.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

I'm really glad to see these results. I'm strong agree.

I saw some comments for somewhat disagree -- for example, for communities that are private, it may be better not to be federated.

I didn't see any explanations for strong disagree, though.

MaryMarasKittenBakery,
@MaryMarasKittenBakery@troet.cafe avatar

@evan
What about the users of the Fediverse?
Everybody in a siloed network chose to be there and can always chose to be here, too.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@MaryMarasKittenBakery that's not the question.

MaryMarasKittenBakery,
@MaryMarasKittenBakery@troet.cafe avatar

@evan
Exactly. That's what I am irritated about.
It's like saying: is colonisation of other countries good or not for people living in the first world.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@MaryMarasKittenBakery cool. You should definitely do your own poll then. I'll boost it if you tag me.

deirdrebeth,
@deirdrebeth@mas.to avatar

@evan
For the Users, 100%.
For everybody not using that siloed network - absolutely not.

toooobeeee,

@evan
Strongly disagree here. Can't look at the silo user's situation only, and completely ignore the implications for all the fediverse users. I'd say, you will have to choose: want a siloed experience, go ahead. Want (still relative) freedom, change your situation and join the fediverse. Bit like stopping to smoke, imho.

evan, (edited )
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@toooobeeee actually, I can ask any question I want.

If you can't get out of your own head and consider other people's needs, feel free to skip the poll.

realhackhistory,
@realhackhistory@chaos.social avatar

@evan better for them, or better for us?

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@realhackhistory better for them.

Heliograph,
@Heliograph@mastodon.au avatar

@evan I guess as always the answer starts with 'it depends', and it really does, on how the silo-situation came about...

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar
Heliograph,
@Heliograph@mastodon.au avatar

@evan I know and yes either there's an answer or there's no answer, but the discussion is the poll itself (partake/abstain)

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@Heliograph I perfectly understand that some minds can't do this kind of integration easily, or feel honest about it. Feel free to spend your time on something else.

Lizette603_23,
@Lizette603_23@mastodon.social avatar

@evan don't even know what all the words mean

jones,
evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@jones oh, hey, you moved servers!

jones,

@evan do you mean i linked like a little spider? :)

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@jones no, I mean, you used to have a Mastodon account on a different server, like tarantella.party or something.

mpjgregoire,
@mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca avatar

@evan Did Internet users benefit from AOL providing access to the Internet? There were pluses and minuses; it was good overall, I'd say. Did AOL users benefit from access to the Internet? Unquestionably.

Strong agree.

annika,
@annika@xoxo.zone avatar

@evan Strongly agree. "Better" in the sense that the users receive more convenience (via more connections) without having to reexamine their previous choices.

A potential negative is ban evasion, where an attacker can create many accounts on different servers and the silo has less ability to detect related accounts.

ninavizz,
@ninavizz@mastodon.social avatar

@evan Better for user interests in the long term, vs better for usability in the short term, is a critical fork that makes this a difficult (if not misleading) survey question, imho.

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