@jeffcliff@coolboymew dang, Jeff. was really hoping COVID would be over by now. I spent some time at an old folks home yesterday, nobody was wearing masks. then I went to Olive Garden and ditto.
@SAKURARadiochan@jeffcliff@haberdasher@coolboymew its ok, its a running thing where he wont tell me that he can't dead lift 135 and does his covid trolling thing acting like its the plague of justinian
@jeffcliff@dictatordave@haberdasher@coolboymew the problem is there's severe problems with counting the deaths since hospitals went like "died of brain trauma in a car accident? we detected CV19 in his system so it's a death of COVID"
@jeffcliff@dictatordave@SAKURARadiochan@coolboymew Jeff, do you have a general count of the number of Baby Boomers who might expire within the next 5-10 years? whether those deaths are related to covid or not (my money would be on NOT), there's a very foreseeable mass die-off coming.
@jeffcliff@dictatordave@haberdasher@coolboymew biden is not a "covidiot" and neither is any democrat
it's endemic now and you can be a shutin wearing a mask 24/7 or you can live
which will you choose, if you've been vaxxed you should not have a problem right
Biden is a covidiot, this isn't even remotely contentious.
> it's endemic now
OK let's see if you know what that term means. What is the current R_0 / R_e ?
>which will you choose, if you've been vaxxed you should not have a problem right
This is like saying "you wear a seat belt, who cares if the road is full of people who are drunk/blindfolded driving on the wrong side of the road at 180km/h? Oh and your students crossing the road? Totally just collateral damage you shouldn't care about them".
The vaccine provides protection but
covid continues to evolve around it
you don't want to get it at all. If can easily fuck you up for life
secondly THE SCIENCE (TM) kept telling me if you got the vax it shouldn't be a problem
thirdly I've already had CV19, it was a really bad 2 weeks so whatever.
we can't shut down the entire world just to appease you or the elderly, we kept hearing "flatten the curve! flatten the curve!" and the fact is you can't just do nothing and let the world grind to a stop. We have to move on.
> Biden and Democrats did and keep doing the exact opposite of what so called "covidiots" do
like declaring covid over?
when was the last time you saw biden in a mask?
how many of the democrats are calling him out on the above two?
Biden has killed hundreds of thousands of people with his covid negligence.
> secondly THE SCIENCE (TM) kept telling me if you got the vax it shouldn't be a problem
if enough people got the vax, sure. But obviously that didn't happen. It is still a problem but significantly less of one if you are vaxxed.
> it was a really bad 2 weeks so whatever.
The acute infection was a bad 2 weeks. The damage it did to your body is still with you, including in your brain and your immune system.
> we can't shut down the entire world just to appease you
No. We're going to shut down the entire world to destroy a virus killing tens of millions and maiming tens of millions more, and wrecking mitochondrial DNA of children
> we kept hearing "flatten the curve! flatten the curve!"
in 2020 maybe
> and the fact is you can't just do nothing and let the world grind to a stop. We have to move on.
Yeah we're going to move on without you covidiots, that's for sure.
And I see you're doding my questions so you have no idea what endemic actually means.
@jeffcliff@SAKURARadiochan@dictatordave@haberdasher@coolboymew >wrecking mitochondrial DNA of children
Dude that's every virus. Not even kidding. I find the "eliminate all viruses" argument a pipedream at best. It certainly won't happen with vaccines as they presently exist. Targeted antibody treatments are the way to go for now. Adjuvants are used so frequently, and I'm wondering how much damage they might be causing on a latent level. Inflammation is tied in to a lot of health problems, which is something COVID has shed some serious light on. Your thoughts?
@dictatordave@jeffcliff@SAKURARadiochan@haberdasher@coolboymew I knew a healthy young guy who died of mayocarditis from mono decades ago. He was an athlete and didn't realize he had heart damage. This kind of stuff is real and it sucks when it happens, but most people don't get heart damage from mono or COVID or anything else. Pro vaccine evidence based doctors have shifted their opinion on young men getting the same dose as women, possibly suggesting one total dose or reduced dosage or avoiding the vaccine entirely. This isn't a dominant mainstream position, but it isn't fringe like it was two years ago.
@jeffcliff@dictatordave@haberdasher@coolboymew In the main stream people were just tired of everything and Biden reflects that. We're not going to be wearing masks forever, that's just stupid to think.
We really can't shut down the entire fucking world. Doing it fucked over my generation, yet again, and the generation before mine, to benefit the Boomers. You really can't shut down the world. It's not feasible and COVID19 isn't going to go away, there can't be a thing like "zero COVID," it's impossible.
Lockdowns led to a rise in deaths from non COVID causes because of increased drug and alcohol use, domestic violence, and also the cessation of doctor visits which led to an increase in deaths from preventable causes. It did more harm than "good".
If you want to be a paranoid shutin that's your business.
Yes it is clear. It also led to a rise in suicides.
Lockdowns did in fact do a whole hell of a lot of harm. If you want to live like how they lived in Wuhan or Shanghai for years that's you. If you want to be trapped in a cage that's your business. Most people can't fucking handle it and also need to go OUT to make money so that they can continue to stay alive.
Add comment