ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

Since I'm being boring and moaning about the scam de jour again, let me also go 'WTF' about people blindly taking the word of people who stand to make BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on this topic at face value?

Like I don't fucking want to hear 'the CEO of nvidia says AI stuff is incredible', yeah OBVIOUSLY he says that, I mean jesus christ how naive are people??

"I asked the local butcher whether he thinks more people should buy meat and he said they should!"

WOWWWW!!

a1ba,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@ljs I asked local Linux kernel developer which OS I should use and the answer shocked me

(not serious)

kirby,

@a1ba @ljs (very serious)

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@kirby @a1ba actually you definitely shouldn't use linux it's terrible

Use OS/2 instead

a1ba,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@kirby @ljs they said Windows

lanodan,
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me avatar

@a1ba @kirby @ljs Meanwhile FreeBSD devs unironically: Best OS is MacOS.

a1ba,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@lanodan @kirby @ljs don't they share the userland?

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@a1ba @kirby @lanodan yes in the same way you 'share' your living room with a home invader

kirby,

@ljs @lanodan @a1ba holy crap are we getting into unix dev drama I'm all in for it

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@kirby @lanodan @a1ba haha no drama from me man, I love these cute hobbyist projects live + let live

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@kirby @a1ba @lanodan they have a great license too, like redis, big fan

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

how does that analogy work?

kirby,

@mischievoustomato @lanodan @ljs @a1ba well apple when they needed some userland tools just sort of went

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@kirby @lanodan @mischievoustomato @a1ba they keep their userland tools very up to date too

lanodan,
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me avatar

@a1ba @kirby @ljs AFAIK somewhat, IIRC MacOS just picks up a bunch of stuff from BSDs/illumos/pre-GPLv3-GNU/… and puts it in a blender.

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@lanodan @kirby @a1ba what no BeOS??

Sad times

lanodan,
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me avatar

@ljs @kirby @a1ba I think there's bits of BeOS lurking in there with AppleScript or whatever it's called to make scripts against the GUI elements.

But the most I've used MacOS is like 40 minutes in a VM and I think I had enough for like 10 years.

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@lanodan @kirby @a1ba I recommend MacOS to anybody who's not insane enough to use linux, it is my default OS recommendation

lanodan,
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me avatar

@ljs @kirby @a1ba MacOS is a thing I just can't recommend, hardware is expensive and the hardware support is just so bad it's basically vendor-locking you.

Meanwhile most people I know can just get a random medium-entry laptop where you then slap a random distro like Mint/Debian/Fedora.
Worst is like chromebooks could have a serious impact but the support is so abysmal it's just not a serious alternative.

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@lanodan @kirby @a1ba FreeBSD engineers stop crying long enough to give recommendations? Wow

ljs,
@ljs@social.kernel.org avatar

@a1ba @kirby NO. OS/2.

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