@peter@arstechnica there are some excellent mini-PCs for good prices…but go to the next tier of pricing, and there are even server class options - the Minis Forums MS01 is great - 13900H CPU with 6P core & 8E cores, Proxmox works really well on it, 2.5 & 10Gb network capacity, plenty of SSD slots, DDR5 memory. What’s not to like…except it’s uses a bit more power than my small Asus PN51 boxes with Ryzen CPUs (…but still well under 100W most of the time)