arstechnica,
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What I learned when I replaced my cheap Pi 5 PC with a no-name Amazon mini desktop

Pi 5 is still an odd fit for day-to-day desktop use; cheap mini PCs come closer.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/what-i-learned-when-i-replaced-my-cheap-pi-5-pc-with-a-no-name-amazon-mini-desktop/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social

nazokiyoubinbou,
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@arstechnica I really want to be able to use a Raspberry Pi that way. I've tried several times over the years. They're just so constrained and weak. Plus hardware acceleration is still lacking (especially if you don't use Chromium.)

In the end, yeah, a minipc still really does just work better.

anthropy,
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@arstechnica the advent of cheaper and cheaper mini PCs is nice, but at the same time I think the raspi 5 is a bad benchmark; the first raspi was literally 25$, and it worked and ran youtube videos and everything-- sure it was slow, but if we're arguing that for 4-6x the price you get something marginally faster, I'd just reply that for 2x the price you'd have a second hand desktop that is faster than those mini PCs and a lot more upgradable ...

AndyGER,
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@arstechnica I am very happy with my used i7 preferring to ...

peter,
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@arstechnica I have to say, I've got 3 of the Trigkey machines and they work really well, 32G ram 8 core 16 thread Ryzens, although I did replace the NVMe with 2Tb sticks, to max them out.

2 are running ProxMox whilst the third is now my desktop running Debian.

So far no issues, and the main aim of reducing power is great, compared to what they are replacing.

Still have room for a 2Tb sata SSD as well

epistomai,
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@peter @arstechnica I have one and am pretty sure it can handle an 8T ssd

peter,
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@epistomai @arstechnica not tried it, but I did read it's the 32bit bios which is common on many machines which might cause it not to detect it.

Planning on adding another machine at some point so might try it with a larger drive to find out.

That said, memory wise, I did read they can handle 64gb of ram

epistomai,
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@peter @arstechnica I just read the specs, my bad.

I have a beelink but with a ryzen w/64 bit processor

peter,
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@epistomai @arstechnica beeklink do look good except the price, but I'm happy with the 2tb limitations as if I need more storage then that's where the Nas comes into play.

For VMS they are brilliant, so far

g7vkq,
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@peter @arstechnica there are some excellent mini-PCs for good prices…but go to the next tier of pricing, and there are even server class options - the Minis Forums MS01 is great - 13900H CPU with 6P core & 8E cores, Proxmox works really well on it, 2.5 & 10Gb network capacity, plenty of SSD slots, DDR5 memory. What’s not to like…except it’s uses a bit more power than my small Asus PN51 boxes with Ryzen CPUs (…but still well under 100W most of the time)

peter,
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@g7vkq @arstechnica I'll have to look at those, I'm happy with these ones but anything with low power is good for me in reducing the power bill

g7vkq,
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@peter @arstechnica my Asus boxes run around 12-20W…and with today’s electricity pricing, they make great Proxmox servers

peter,
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@g7vkq @arstechnica that's what I like these, they max out at 20W and that makes sense with today's prices

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