paninid,
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lori,

@paninid What about omnipresent equiveillance?

paninid,
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@lori
I was today years old when I learned of , so…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

vfrmedia,
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@paninid @lori UK nowadays has as much sousveillance as surveillance but often one feeds the other, its a case of "an eye for an eye gets everyone watched"

Bluedepth,
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@vfrmedia @paninid @lori I suppose if you know you’re being watched, make it worthwhile for the watchers. The office of silly walks. Talking backwards. Opposite Day. Perpetrating mock aphasia. Make no sense. Act irrationally. Put in a show! If everyone acts silly, then it makes watching kind of pointless, the routine is lost, the structure is gone. It’s just a lot of wasted money watching fools. :)

vfrmedia,
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@Bluedepth @paninid @lori this may work for folk like the dog walker who buys a bodycam and thinks they are James Bond, maybe even a minimum wage rentaguard watching a small CCTV scheme, and was done in 90s when folk first became aware of widespread CCTV - but surveillance officers are now trained to ignore distractions - or will just assume the person is under the influence of alcohol or substances, an offence in itself in a public place here which can attract further unwanted attention..

Bluedepth,
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@vfrmedia @paninid @lori What if everyone did it? :)

vfrmedia,
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@Bluedepth @paninid @lori it might raise a few smiles in the control room, but the folk would still be watched, and maybe watched closer by those thinking "what are they trying to hide"?

There's an interesting film from UK defence ministry, where in 1950s soldiers from a surveillance team were given LSD - most burst out into laughter and was unable to carry out their operational tasks; but one was determined to fight the effects (in the end he had to be taken away by medical staff to rest)

Bluedepth,
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@vfrmedia @paninid @lori It’s these sorts of exchanges that help assuage the regret of not being a tourist in the UK. I always wanted to visit London, and even Dublin too even though my entire family is aghast at why. Pop culture is full of shows where UK CCTV tech is a fundamental part of the story. Yet we kind of try not to worry too much over it. Things change when it transitions from public safety to menace. I miss civil disobedience.

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