tubetime,
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one of today's pickups is this mystery Xebec RAM card. I can't find any information about it, so I think I'll try reverse engineering it.

tubetime,
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the chip pins are crimped. this is a huge pain even with the super nice desoldering tool (FR-301)

tubetime,
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removed the one PROM chip and, confirmed, it was a pain. the other chips will be easier though...

tubetime,
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just clipping the leads of the chips using side cutters will make this much easier. they're just plain TTL anyway.

root42,
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@tubetime this looks a bit barbaric…

tubetime,
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phew!

tubetime,
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the sockets are going to be trickier. i'm thinking i need a soldering iron tip that can hit all the pins at once. did a web search and the 5th result was MY OWN DANG TWEET from like 2 years ago, lol. i think i just "Fooned" myself.

https://twitter.com/TubeTimeUS/status/1554633997698928642

jhaluska,
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@tubetime With as much de soldering that you do, I'm surprised you don't' already have one.

old_Taki,
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@tubetime when I was a kid and new parts where out of reach, as well as a desoldering pump, I used this 👇, googles and an old jacket. Melted the solder in a region and hit my hand with the PCB on the table, with the parts side down. Inertia did the rest...

tubetime,
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@old_Taki good idea but i don't want to burn the board.

tubetime,
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phew, that was a lot of work.

tubetime,
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scanned and loaded into Kicad!

tubetime,
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routed (except for a few RAS and CAS lines). i also have the schematic, but it needs cleanup work.

tubetime,
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dumped the PROM. it seems to be part of the address decoding process or memory mapping.

tubetime,
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so this board looks like it does both XMS (extended memory) and EMS (expanded memory). expanded memory is banked and uses a 64K (iirc) window to access it.

cr1901,
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@tubetime Ahhh, so it's like the AST RAMpage 286 :D!

tubetime,
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well crap, this board appears to be a clone of the Intel Above Board Plus 8 card. it sure looks the same!

root42,
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@tubetime but has it ever been reverse engineered before…? That would be a bummer. But if not: success!

tubetime,
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yeah sure looks identical. welp, now we know how it works, lol.

tubetime,
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OK, here are the KiCad files. it's not really a fab-able design because there are still DRC errors, but at least the schematic is useful.

https://github.com/schlae/XebecAboveBoard

keelan,
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@tubetime how do you go from PCB layout to schematic? When I did this, I ended up tracing the PCB in a CAD package, the writing a thing that analyzed the lines and spit out a netlist. I then learned that while many tools exist to convert schematics to netlists, I couldn’t find much to go the other way ‘round.

tubetime,
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@keelan i'm running a trace in layout, seeing where it goes, then creating the connectivity in the schematic and pushing it to layout to create the connection.

jhaluska,
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@tubetime I suspect that this will be the hardest part of this project.

f4grx,
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@tubetime 9 chips per column, does it have parity?

tubetime,
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@f4grx no it seems to have 9 banks of 8 bits

cr1901,
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@tubetime There's no switches :o...

tubetime,
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@cr1901 upper right corner there is a switch bank

cr1901,
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@tubetime Oooooh, the light reflecting makes it hard for me to see it :D.

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