@starshaped Well, I haven't worked in it for several years, but when I left I felt a shift in how seriously they were taking design and front-end, which had previously going in a good direction. So perhaps my take isn't the most up-to-date, what do you think: https://social.lol/@anniegreens/112357273182137081
@anniegreens I actually think design and front end in Drupal have moved in a very positive direction in the last couple years! Olivero, the new default theme, and Claro, the new admin theme, were built with accessibility and good design in mind, and the new navigation module has gone through many design iterations (I'm part of that initiative and have been to all the design meetings). I definitely think it has gotten better in terms of design, accessibility, and front-end development.
@starshaped Yes, all those three things were in progress when I last touched it. And since I haven't been involved for a while it is hard to know where things went. But my last encounters with build teams were still more interested in making everything a "make once, use everywhere" as componentized as possible without really thinking about use cases and the purposes of design. Twig was transformative and made front-end a proper player in Drupal, so I'm glad things have continued with that.
@starshaped But I do still believe that there is a bias to the engineering core of it. Not sure of how to put that any better. Like so many other tech and web things today, they'd rather hire a full-stack developer to fill that front-end role, than someone who is specialized in design and implementation for the web.
@anniegreens That has gotten better, but it still is more biased toward back end development. The people who ran the Olivero and Claro initiatives were more front-end focused (maybe I'm biased because they are/were my coworkers!), and the person who ran Claro is a designer herself. It's not perfect, but it's way better than it was.
@starshaped My issue is probably not entirely on Drupal, but with web tech generally, and I've blogged about that. It just happened to manifest with Drupal because that is what I lived in for so long.
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