QasimRashid,
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Incredible. Read the text of the ceasefire agreement.

The ceasefire mandated release of ALL Israeli hostages, a permanent & indefinite ceasefire—meaning Hamas could never offensively take up arms against Israel again—and Qatar, Egypt, USA, & the UN serving as Guarantors.

Israel still said no.😐
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/text-of-the-ceasefire-proposal-approved-by-hamas

BenRossTransit,
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@QasimRashid This offer retracts terms that Hamas previously agreed to. It allows Hamas to deliver dead bodies rather than live hostages, and gives Israel no voice in the selection of the prisoners given in exchange. After releasing only 15 dead bodies or live hostages selected by Hamas, and getting hundreds of its key operatives in exchange, Hamas can stop the releases on the grounds that Israel has not agreed to its maximum demands. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/tv-report-highlights-key-areas-where-hamas-proposal-differs-from-israeli-backed-offer/

phryk, (edited )
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@QasimRashid Uh, not trying to be an asshole, but reading that text I can definitely see some reasons why Israel wouldn't agree to that.

This would objectively enable Hamas to free a bunch of its incarcerated fighters, possibly even some of those involved in the October attacks.

Additionally "movement of goods" "without restrictions" sounds a lot like it'd enable weapons to be brought in again.

Also I don't think a ceasefire works like you think it does.

phryk, (edited )
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@QasimRashid Ceasefires are traditionally a much weaker thing than peace treaties and even those don't offer a strong guarantee.

I really don't see where you get the interpretation that this would guarantee in any way that Hamas won't attack again. Honestly, with understandably risen resentments against Israel, I highly doubt that'd be the case.

PS: To clarify, I'm definitely not on the side of Israel in this conflict (and neither on that of Hamas, before anyone asks).

phryk,
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@QasimRashid To further clarify, I would have liked a ceasefire like 6 months ago and a proper road towards peace.

I would have liked for UN blue helments to actually do something useful for once and go into Gaza to guarantee human aid deliveries.

But Hamas and the Netanyahu government have fucked the prospects for peace six ways to sunday and that's a complete tragedy that the population with nothing to gain in this conflict will continue to suffer under for decades to come.

rmblaber1956,
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@QasimRashid @harriettmb Proof - as if it was needed - that Netanyahu isn't at all interested in peace, unless it's the peace of the grave for all Palestinians.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@QasimRashid

Israel is committed to total siege and its effect running to completion. The point of attacking Rafah is not to defeat Hamas but to allow the horsemen famine and disease to do their work, to maximize death.

This is Identity15-3, the Samuel 15 Mafia.

glutto,
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@QasimRashid
This whole thing stinks of racial domination:
Know your place, Palestinians! Get back under my boot!

shalien,
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@QasimRashid How curious...

Craftycat,
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@QasimRashid it's almost as if they don't want peace, they just want an excuse to commit genocide 🤔

Properganda,
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RememberUsAlways,
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@QasimRashid

Israel has no incentive to help Hamas release the hostages and to suggest we should have sympathy for terrorists using handgliders to take hostages is nonsense.

GreenFire,
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@RememberUsAlways @QasimRashid
White House spokesperson John Kirby said Hamas presented a revised proposal, and the new text suggests the remaining gaps can "absolutely be closed." Speaking on Tuesday, he declined to specify what those were.

CIA Director Bill Burns was to travel from Cairo to Israel later on Wednesday to meet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli officials.

Of course everyone is going to push the narrative on a ceasefire that's best for their tribe though.

RememberUsAlways,
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@GreenFire

As far as I understand, all conflict stops with the release of the first .

Hamas is playing games with the negotiation, as if the are actually deceased. The begins when the first hostage is rescued.

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