volpeon,

Very annoyed by the fact that modern UI/HMI designs have a tendency to disregard well-researched and established solutions and replace them with shitty ones either because it's cheaper or because it's trendy. Flat UI is objectively harder to use. Replacing physical controls with a huge touchscreen in cars is dangerous. Replacing buttons and forms with a chat bot is fucking annoying. There is no need to make your checkboxes round like a special little snowflake. Fuck your dark patterns and especially "maybe later".

icedquinn,
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@volpeon nobody does UX studies anymore. it's just whatever google and apple decide looks hip now.

senil888,

@volpeon Lack of physical controls for everything is the WORST. If I ever replace my car's stereo unit with something Android Auto friendly, it has to have at least a volume knob or buttons for volume.

I'm very confident exactly three well known companies make those. and they're both the floating screen style so they'd never in a good position in my car without blocking SOMETHING.

Pioneer maybe succeeds with one that has a little motorized screen that folds down and slides away when not in use, but even then I don't think it has a volume knob or buttons. plus same issue it'd block my hazard button Dx

puppygirlhornypost,

@volpeon well-researched and established solutions are so last year though. unironically, I think that it's just a marketing thing of "oooo I'm being different OOOOO look at me" and people go with it because they want a different experience instead of tried and true. Which okay, that's great but this is how you end up with companies trying to capitalize on that trend.

puppygirlhornypost,
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@puppygirlhornypost @volpeon and so the next iteration is "Okay, well let's tweak it up slightly" in order to fix whatever fatal flaw, and it turns into an iterative prototyping approach. This is great for alpha or beta software but I find it really distasteful that it happens in FUCKING CARS. I think that cars should be treated as long term stable, and not to have drastic radical changes in behavior between generations but that's just me.

RaethDragon,
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volpeon,

@RaethDragon Exactly ​:blobfoxtableflip:​

wolf480pl,
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@RaethDragon @volpeon also note the unnecessary 2em of padding everywhere

volpeon,

@wolf480pl @RaethDragon Where is everywhere? If you mean the spacing before the items without check/radio control, it's necessary to keep them aligned with items that do have these controls. Aligned text is always better for usability than unaligned because your gaze jumps around less to find the beginning.

wolf480pl,
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@volpeon @RaethDragon i meant on the right menu, didn't notice that one has a checkbox as well

RaethDragon,
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@volpeon either people are demanding tactile controls be replaced with touchscreens or they aren't. If it's the former, then maybe the market shouldn't be able to demand a dangerous design. If the latter, then demand and market-driven capitalism is a myth and companies are chasing silly fads.

grillchen,
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@volpeon i hate android for that reason. nothing beats a good ol' textfile

fristi,
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@volpeon windows forms was unironically an amazing gui toolkit

CleyFaye,

@volpeon my favorite is leaving a ton of empty space that populate when you hover over it, and then you'll have a chance to finding the button you want (and it won't look like a button).

Better memorize all these invisible placement if you want a modicum of efficiency (also, it's all contextual and buttons move around all the time for your convenience, even though there's ample room to show everything).

Yeah, the future is there.

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