jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

DB ICE 731 Hamburg - Köln

A slowish route because all the infra is old. And it’s a ICE 1 from the 1980s, renovated more than a decade ago

But the ambience on board, the comfort of the seats, are still excellent. It’s like someone actually thought “what would passengers actually appreciate in a train interior?”

It doesn’t feel like packing as many people in as possible was the priority. And that’s so nice 😊

akrumeich,
@akrumeich@social.cologne avatar

@jon Not a coincidence that https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_1 is today’s “Article of the Day” in the German Wikipedia, is it? 😁

elba013,
@elba013@muenchen.social avatar

@jon I like the route via Recklinghausen somewhat more than the one via Dortmund. Less stops and avoiding Dortmund sometimes helps.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@elba013 Indeed, absolutely. Plus it's all double track that helps too (although the Dortmund one might have been double tracked by now? Not taken that one for some years)

elba013,
@elba013@muenchen.social avatar

@jon Still single track north of Lünen.

elba013,
@elba013@muenchen.social avatar

@jon The argument pro Dortmund are ICE via Wuppertal and avoiding the Duisburg-Düsseldorf-Köln route. You can toss a coin what's better.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@elba013 but there are some that go Münster - Dortmund - Essen - Duisburg - Düsseldorf - Köln. That's the worst of all worlds!

steely_glint,
@steely_glint@chaos.social avatar

@jon Yep - the space (and the woodwork) on the older ICE trains along with the quality of the ride and the wifi makes it possible to do a productive day's work while going at a reasonable clip across Germany. I fear how they will be replaced.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@steely_glint There’s at least a decade more of the ICE1s

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

And it’s not quite a fair comparison, but would I prefer 4 hours on this ICE to 3 hours on a TGV? Totally. I’d opt for the ICE every time.

deadliftbear,
@deadliftbear@mas.to avatar

@jon I remember about 15 years ago taking a Thalys TGV from Brussels to Cologne and feeling very uncomfortable the whole way. And I’m bigger now. DB gets a lot weong, but comfort is generally right.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@deadliftbear I see it slightly differently - what DB is trying to do is generally pretty much all right. It's the implementation that often goes wrong. Often SNCF and its wider affiliates like Thalys and Eurostar do not even have the right intention.

can,
@can@mstdn.social avatar

@jon How can I find out which ICE model the train is? Currently on the ICE 783 Hamburg - Munich

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@can ICE4 lang. This can show you: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/bahn-fahrplan-live-tracking/id1622187352?l=en-GB

ICE4 is the most modern. Seats are very high back, giving a less roomy feeling, but still an excellent train.

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