@baldur I’ve taught web dev at uni level for > 25yrs and I don’t know where to start here. This thread just hits me to my core. I’ll say a big challenge is pre existing beliefs, learner mindset, and frankly impatience. The influence of hustle style Web pundits has been a big challenge but now LLM ease is pure gas poured on a platform basics learning failures. Amazing passionate student bright spots always exist and that keeps me very motivated, but it is much harder now than ever.